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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    The KKK uses a cross, lit on fire, so should the government ban the Christian cross? Oh... wait...

    I have no problem with removing the cloth battle flags from government office buildings or capital buildings. I have a major problem with removing or defacing monuments which memorialize the men that died for the state in which they lived - which includes a number of my direct ancestors. Even if those monuments have a carved depiction of the battle flag.

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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

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    So....anyway care to defend Amazon.com and it's support for murderous commies?
    There is a 150 year waiting period before you can ban symbols of atrocities...
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Such a ridiculous and loaded demand. There were likely SS infantrymen who themselves were not anti-semitic, but the goals they advanced certainly were. Similarly, the leaders of the Confederacy and its individual states swore to fight for the subjugation of blacks and the US government, individual exceptions notwithstanding. Insisting that one prove such a thing is just transparent apologism.
    Bad analogy since SS infantrymen where never declared traitors. Also there were several leaders of those infantrymen who WERE prosecuted for war crimes but not the infantrymen unless they really did something horrible. Can you even do that much in regards to the Confederates?

    In any case no, they were not traitors. Anyone that thinks that they were does not understand US history nor what the term "traitor" means.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bad analogy since SS infantrymen where never declared traitors. lso there were several leaders of those infantrymen who WERE prosecuted for war crimes but not the infantrymen unless they really did something horrible. Can you even do that much in regards to the Confederates?
    Way to miss the point entirely. I never said the SS were traitors, but rather that you can assign negative (and accurate) characteristics to a group without accounting for every individual within said group for the sake of finding exceptions. That's simply a ridiculous demand and one that cannot be taken seriously. The goals of the Confederacy were racist in nature, by the words of their own leaders.

    In any case no, they were not traitors. Anyone that thinks that they were does not understand US history nor what the term "traitor" means.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    No, it was the only flag that represented the faction that fought and died attempting to perpetuate the institution of slavery. If I had a nickel for everytime I've seen this phony, half-ass argument I'd be posting from a Yacht.
    Actually, no it was not. You don't even know this much and you're posting about it? This was the flag of the Confederacy:

    confederate-flag-1.jpg
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually, no it was not. You don't even know this much and you're posting about it? This was the flag of the Confederacy:

    confederate-flag-1.jpg
    Ok. Most prominent. Most recognizable. Most often used in the present day to indicate support of the Confederacy. The point stands.

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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    It's all a proxy war against mostly white southern Conservatives who revere the flag. They know who it pisses off, and because they are hateful they want to actively piss them off if they can. I understand removing it from gov property as national symbols are important to recognize/not recognize (we wouldn't fly a foreign country's flag over a capitol, in much the same way the Confederate flag has no place there). If it's really all about purging hateful symbols then why can I still buy Che Guevara stuff, Mao Zedong books/items, Communist flags responsible for many millions of more deaths and other such things. It's all really nothing short of hypocrisy. I mean it's not like pieces of Nazi uniforms aren't for sale on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/German-WWII-Re...Z0TKDQR69TJ9XH
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Way to miss the point entirely. I never said the SS were traitors, but rather that you can assign negative (and accurate) characteristics to a group without accounting for every individual within said group for the sake of finding exceptions. That's simply a ridiculous demand and one that cannot be taken seriously. The goals of the Confederacy were racist in nature, by the words of their own leaders.
    So by your logic here it is perfectly acceptable to label all blacks as race baiters like Al Sharpton who is considered a leader? Broadly painted brush strokes inevitably lead to a failure.

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    a person who is not loyal to his or her own country, friends, etc.
    Thanks for showing that you don't know the US's history. Pre-civil war the United States was not considered an actual country. It was a group of sovereign states who banded together for reasons of defense. Why do you think that we have "States" in the US to begin with? Why would a country need a setup like we have here in the US? In fact there is only one other Country that has anything even close to what we have here in the US and that's Canada. All other countries are solid compared to the US.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So by your logic here it is perfectly acceptable to label all blacks as race baiters like Al Sharpton who is considered a leader? Broadly painted brush strokes inevitably lead to a failure.
    Ones ethnicity cannot change voluntarily. It also does not have elected leaders, stated values and goals as did the Confederacy. What were you saying about failure?

    Thanks for showing that you don't know the US's history. Pre-civil war the United States was not considered an actual country. It was a group of sovereign states who banded together for reasons of defense. Why do you think that we have "States" in the US to begin with? Why would a country need a setup like we have here in the US? In fact there is only one other Country that has anything even close to what we have here in the US and that's Canada. All other countries are solid compared to the US.
    The dictionary uses more modern terminology. Substitute Federal Union for Country, or keep on playing semantics, feigning as if you actually have an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Ok. Most prominent. Most recognizable. Most often used in the present day to indicate support of the Confederacy. The point stands.
    Except that its not shown in support of the confederacy in present day. Its most often used as a symbol of rebellion. So no, your point doesn't stand.
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