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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The confederacy is just another word for traitor.
    SO was American to the English if you want to go there.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

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    Does the fact that he had to be mentally ill cross your mind at all?
    Are you saying that the use of the Confederate BF requires one to be "mentally ill"?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Are you saying that the use of the Confederate BF requires one to be "mentally ill"?
    I never said that. I said its obvious that the guy was off his rocker. I don't care if he used any flag out there, he was obviously not all there upstairs. That much should be obvious.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Does the fact that he had to be mentally ill cross your mind at all?
    But he wasn't mentally ill if you stop and look at it.

    It is interesting that people on the Right are trying to claim that Dylann was obviously insane or on drugs. But the manifesto did not really seem like the rant of an insane man. The motivation of his attack was clear - he felt his people were under attack and he had an obligation to strike back.

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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    I never said that. I said its obvious that the guy was off his rocker. I don't care if he used any flag out there, he was obviously not all there upstairs. That much should be obvious.
    I read this claim from lots of right wingers, trying to divert the discussion of racism to "mental illness", the problems with this are numerous, above all, this armchair diagnosis has no basis in facts. It is an avoidance of fact, the fact is he indulged in racist rants, surrounded himself in racist paraphernalia, espoused racist rhetoric as he was killing his Black victims.

    I suppose one can go back through previous attacks on Black churches and revise the motivations of the assailants to "insanity".....but that would be pure hogwash, just as it would be hogwash to say that the 9-11 hijackers were "mentally ill", that their prime motivation for carrying out their terrorism was not ideology.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So.... then you have documentation proving that he was turned down for requested mental health assistance at some relevant point before the shooting????
    He who? I'm talking about the mental health system in the US, not a specific person.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    SIMON: Do you see anything to suggest an insanity plea in this case?

    FOX: No. I would - it's very, very difficult, first of all, to successfully plead insanity in these cases. Generally jury - even if there's compelling evidence that insanity is plausible, juries certainly don't buy it. They look at nine people killed and they believe, not wrongly, but they do believe that someone who will get away with murder if they are found not guilty by reason of insanity. There's nothing here that would suggest that he didn't know what he was doing. And I - an insanity plea, in this case, would in all likelihood fail.

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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    SO was American to the English if you want to go there.
    The British never really owned the colonies. Since there wasn't any government in the New World the colonists that came over to get away from Britain simply kept following British law among themselves because that's all they knew. Britain itself was too busy having a long war with France to care about the colonies and thought they were just some insignificant backwater outpost full of ignorant, trouble makers. In fact, Britiain used to send their riff raff, pick pockets and petty thieves over to America just to get rid of them. But as soon at the war ended, Britain was broke and needed to find funding and that's when they set their eyes on the colonies for taxation..

    The point is the colonists were following British law of their own free will and that's why they didn't have representation in parliament. So when the British started to tax them, the colonists said, fine, but we want representation in your government in return. The British ignored their demands and the colonists got angry and booted the Brits back where they came from. So you see, the colonies never really belonged to the British in the first place.

    That's a little different than trying to secede from your country in order to keep human beings in bondage against their will, don't you think?

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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Harman View Post
    But he wasn't mentally ill if you stop and look at it.

    It is interesting that people on the Right are trying to claim that Dylann was obviously insane or on drugs. But the manifesto did not really seem like the rant of an insane man. The motivation of his attack was clear - he felt his people were under attack and he had an obligation to strike back.
    So in other words he was another McVeigh, because if you remember McVeigh felt that the US was under attack, particularly the 2nd amendment.
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    Re: Confederacy purge continues while last century's villians ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by Harman View Post
    But he wasn't mentally ill if you stop and look at it.

    It is interesting that people on the Right are trying to claim that Dylann was obviously insane or on drugs. But the manifesto did not really seem like the rant of an insane man. The motivation of his attack was clear - he felt his people were under attack and he had an obligation to strike back.
    So it's not unusual for someone who is perfectly normal and has no signs of mental illness or defect to sit for an hour with 9 people he's about to intentionally murder. Is that about right?
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