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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Unfortunately, Britain is probably right. Although, ISIS is certainly the primary concern in the Middle East right now, and having a strong anti-ISIS coalition certainly should be the top priority. It concerns me that a rift in Iranian relations could get in the way of that.
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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Iran's foreign minister Javad Zarif has left Vienna to consult with Iran's ruling clerics in Tehran. There is leeway to extend the negotiations to July 9, but anything beyond this doubles the amount of time (from 30 days to 60 days) the US Congress has to examine any proposed agreement.

    The critical core concerns remain -

    - breakout time
    - sanctions relief schedule
    - sanctions "snap back" procedures
    - intrusive inspections on demand
    - a thorough IAEA examination of ballistics and warhead research (PMDs)
    - interviewing Iranian scientists and technicians
    - a freeze on HEU nuclear research
    - designated centrifuge model allowed
    - diluting/exporting highly enriched uranium stocks
    - reprocessing of spent reactor fissile materials

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Iran's foreign minister Javad Zarif has left Vienna to consult with Iran's ruling clerics in Tehran. There is leeway to extend the negotiations to July 9, but anything beyond this doubles the amount of time (from 30 days to 60 days) the US Congress has to examine any proposed agreement.

    The critical core concerns remain -

    - breakout time
    - sanctions relief schedule
    - sanctions "snap back" procedures
    - intrusive inspections on demand
    - a thorough IAEA examination of ballistics and warhead research (PMDs)
    - interviewing Iranian scientists and technicians
    - a freeze on HEU nuclear research
    - designated centrifuge model allowed
    - diluting/exporting highly enriched uranium stocks
    - reprocessing of spent reactor fissile materials


    Mornin' Simplexity. What was the one Nuke Expert saying? Something to the effect that Iran is about a couple of months to break out already.

    Another deadline missed. Team BO must want the slowwalk to do most of the talking. Despite what Iran has said.

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    I would go further. I think no deal is better than any deal at all. We shouldn't be negotiating anything. We should be explaining to Iran what it needs to do to have us remove the sanctions. Then we should wait until they comply and prove the compliance. I would also harden the sanctions to provide added incentive. I don't understand the concept of unnecessary negotiations with enemies. We have no advantage in lifting sanctions. When Iran provides such an advantage, then we should lift them.

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Possible military aspects of Iran's atomic past

    Possible Military Dimension (PMD) questions raised by the IAEA, but never responded to by Iran. It is vital that the IAEA understand these aspects of the Iranian nuclear program(s).


    - Using cover companies for the procurement of dual-use equipment and material usable in a nuclear bomb but with civilian applications as well. This includes high-speed electronic switches, high-speed cameras and radiation measurement equipment.

    - The acquisition of nuclear material, for example a uranium source for enrichment, and efforts to conceal activities involving such material.

    - Possession of documents detailing how to convert uranium ore into metal and how to produce hemispherical enriched uranium metallic components which can be used in a bomb.

    - The development of exploding bridge wire detonators, whose explosion times can be set to a very high degree of precision. Such precision detonators are crucial for timing the explosion of a nuclear weapon. Iran has said it needed such technology for its oil sector, according to diplomats, who also say there is no peaceful application for the degree of precision of this kind of detonator.

    - Design information for a "multi-point initiation system," technology to synchronize detonators used in some atomic bombs.

    - Hydrodynamic experiments to assess how specific materials react under high pressure as in a nuclear blast. According to some information given to the IAEA by member states, an explosives chamber for such experiments might have been located at the Parchin complex near Tehran, a military site the agency has repeatedly urged Iran to grant it access to.

    - Calculations on neutron behavior that the IAEA has said has no clear civilian application. Iran has provided some fresh information on these calculations in recent weeks, but not enough to allow a breakthrough in the probe.

    - Neutron initiator technology which the IAEA has said "could produce a burst of neutrons suitable for initiating a fission chain reaction," as would be needed for an atomic bomb detonation.

    - Tests to see whether high-tech detonators worked when triggered remotely from a long distance, also potentially relevant to a nuclear weapon.

    - Engineering studies into missile payloads and their behavior when launched. The IAEA has described these studies as "highly relevant to a nuclear weapon program."

    - Work on the development of a firing system that would enable a missile payload to explode both in the air or upon impact.

    - Indications that all the above mentioned areas were organized by a structured management and command chain under the Ministry of Defense Armed Forces Logistics (MODAFL).


    Note: For the IAEA's full technical annex on these issues, click on:
    Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement and relevant provisions of Security Council resolutions in the Islamic Republic of Iran

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ..... and do what?
    Let Israel bomb them into the stone age.

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    Obama extended the deadline again, he is begging Iran to take the deal full of goodies like money and technology, he wants to help them. What a guy! He is so nice...
    Obama is legacy hunting. Good deal? Bad deal? No matter! It's the legacy of a deal that motivates him.

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Let Israel bomb them into the stone age.
    ....would you like to run with that thought and tell us how the rest of the Arab world responds to that move or Iran, with its Army of 400,000 men, for that matter....

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ....would you like to run with that thought and tell us how the rest of the Arab world responds to that move or Iran, with its Army of 400,000 men, for that matter....

    Well the some of that.....rest of the Arab World. Has offered assistance to Israel, if they decide to make that move.

    Oh and Iran and their 400k Army, what can they do about it, besides not much!

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    Re: Britain says no Iran deal 'better than a bad deal'

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Let Israel bomb them into the stone age.
    that nuclear ability of a warlike israel is the very reason iran - justifiably - believes it needs nukes, too
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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