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    Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Just out: U S S.Ct. rules that there is a constitutional right to same sex marriage, going further than just ruling that states have to recognize it, if performed in a state where it's legal.

    This has an impact on the 14 states that have passed laws banning it.

    NOTE: The ruling was NOT just that states have to recognize it. The ruling is that it is now LEGAL, being constitutionally protected. It COULD HAVE made the ruling more narrow, but it did not. It went all the way. The matter is now settled. Gay marriage is legal, like interracial marriage is.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    ...if performed in a state where it's legal.
    So .... it sounds like the SCOTUS left it up to the States to still make the decision as to the legality of SSM, but if done in a state where it IS legal, they states that have banned it must recognize it as legal. A bit nuanced and lets see if those states which still ban it either reverse their ban or re-litigate.

    I do agree with the decision though - if State A says it's legal and the couple moves to State B where it's illegal - State B still has to recognize the marriage. It seems reasonable.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So .... it sounds like the SCOTUS left it up to the States to still make the decision as to the legality of SSM, but if done in a state where it IS legal, they states that have banned it must recognize it as legal. A bit nuanced and lets see if those states which still ban it either reverse their ban or re-litigate.

    I do agree with the decision though - if State A says it's legal and the couple moves to State B where it's illegal - State B still has to recognize the marriage. It seems reasonable.
    No. The ruling is that states cannot ban same sex marriage. It is now LEGAL, constitutionally protected.
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    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Is there a link to the ruling?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Very bad week for the GOP. Heads exploding all over the place. LOL
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Is there a link to the ruling? Because that's not what you said in your OP.
    That is indeed what I said. You misread it. I said:
    U S S.Ct. rules that there is a constitutional right to same sex marriage, GOING FURTHER than just ruling that states have to recognize it, if performed in a state where it's legal.
    (emphasis added)

    Saw it on tv. No link to written ruling yet. I'm sure it's up, now, on CNN or somewhere.

    CNN has a "breaking news" line on page: "Supreme Court rules 5-4 that same-sex marriage is legal nationwide." www.cnn.com.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    This will be the end of the Democratic Party for a generation. You won't see another den in the White House for a decade

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This will be the end of the Democratic Party for a generation. You won't see another den in the White House for a decade
    How so?

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