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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It's not my argument, silly. This is how the liberal judges on the USSC will approach the challenge. Man, sometime for someone that's usually pretty bright, ya kinda missed that one..

    Tim-
    You are the only person I've ever heard express such a view, so declaring it to be the view of others is a bit ambitious of you. Good luck with your theory.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I'm not going to even try to explain to you how non sequitur that is to anything I have posted. Do have a nice day.
    You don't have to......because your avoidance and ignorance is blarring. The fact of the matter is that the exact argument that you are trying to make is the same exact argument that the bigots of the 50's attempted to make. That is hardly "non-sequitur.....it is directly on point....your choice to ignore it doesn't strengthen your claims....in fact it weakens them.

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    Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    True, and the repercussions and impact of this 'face slap' are yet to be seen.
    My guess would be an even more accelerated moral decline in the population.
    Wonder how long it'll be before this society slides into that Sodom and Gomorrah area (oh wait , we're already there - between NYC and DC).
    Since Sodom and Gomorrah had problems which had absolutely zero to do with same sex marriage or homosexuality (there is a difference between homosexuality and dominance/power assertion rape, even of people of the same sex), it stands to reason if we were to see something, it'd have been before now.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You don't have to......because your avoidance and ignorance is blarring. The fact of the matter is that the exact argument that you are trying to make is the same exact argument that the bigots of the 50's attempted to make. That is hardly "non-sequitur.....it is directly on point....your choice to ignore it doesn't strengthen your claims....in fact it weakens them.
    I don't have time to explain why the argument I am making is quite different from any argument from the 50's either, but again, have a pleasant evening.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't have time to explain why the argument I am making is quite different from any argument from the 50's either, but again, have a pleasant evening.
    I can understand that. It must be pretty complicated seeing as how every argument is word-for-word identical to the ones used by people in the 50's, just swapping same-sex for different-race as needed.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't have time to explain why the argument I am making is quite different from any argument from the 50's either, but again, have a pleasant evening.
    I'm not asking you to...and to be honest it would be a failed attempt anyway because you cannot rationally make such an argument. You and your ilk will continue to make the same claims that the bigots of the 50's did with the same results. Bigotry dies hard but America moves forward. Enjoy.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The 'power of the states' to decide whether they got to discriminate based on race, sexuality, etc has been in jeopardy for quite some time.
    Well, I asked "who is they?", so I guess you mean to say that you are referring to the States. But, we must keep in mind that the word "State" includes the federal government.

    It's an example of the decline of the state right to discriminate.
    They never should have had the right to "discriminate." Though, the Supreme Court has given them the okay on slavery, etc... for hundreds of years.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If you really knew the arguments used by the segregationists during the Jim Crow era, you'd understand...because the arguments they used then really aren't much different from those used against same-sex marriage today - against God's law, against nature, and all that.

    Look up "Loving v. Virginia" and you should see what I mean.
    I don't need to look up that case, I know it's not about redefining marriage, it's about discrimination against blacks. It never attempts to say marriage is no longer just between a man and a woman, it actually tries to cut it down. Exact opposite of SSM, which is redefining marriage to expand it to multiple meanings, not just one.

    The Court in that case defended marriage, the opposite of what was done to it today.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, I asked "who is they?", so I guess you mean to say that you are referring to the States. But, we must keep in mind that the word "State" includes the federal government.
    Yep, but we're not talking about "the federal government" when we refer to the states. Are we?

    They never should have had the right to "discriminate." Though, the Supreme Court has given them the okay on slavery, etc... for hundreds of years.
    Terrible decision made by the men of its time, eventually it was overturned... just like the bans on gay marriage were today.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Finally, it's over.
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