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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Why will more people (same sex couples) getting married detract from the cultural norm of marriage? I can't connect the dots from SSM to any of those negatives you mention.

    I've mentioned my brother is gay. He's got a partner of 5 years. They can get married, or live together like they are now. I'd think them getting married is a good thing for society as opposed to preventing them from making a binding legal and personal commitment to each other. But by your reckoning, if they make a binding commitment, it leads to bad things and I don't see how or why.
    Has anyone noticed that the people in the ME are breeding like rabbits, while we allow SSM and abortion, and don't reproduce ourselves? I see that the EU is currently relocating 40,000 muslims who have come to Europe, by sending them to Greece and Spain and more arrive every day, overwhelming the system. Then they start making demands to have things their way. Brilliant strategy - use sheer numbers to kill the democratic process.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I know what you were trying to say, so then sour grapes reference was to a handful of people? Maybe? And, I don't know if you've heard, but when you say to "the states", that means the federal government now.
    The power to decide which marriages they accepted and didn't has kind of been in jeopardy since them colored and whites got the right to get married... don't act like it was a surprise.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    This is a bad week for America and Americans. The moral fabric of the USA is coming apart at the seams. The SCOTUS has just redefined "marriage". The Red Diaper Doper babies are succeeding in taking down America from the inside without even firing a shot. Just as Krustev promised a half century ago.
    Only of those on the right wing of the spectrum.

    As to the supposed MORAL FABRIC .... lest we forget that for a very long time slavery was part of that conservative MORAL FABRIC.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    Has anyone noticed that the people in the ME are breeding like rabbits, while we allow SSM and abortion, and don't reproduce ourselves? I see that the EU is currently relocating 40,000 muslims who have come to Europe, by sending them to Greece and Spain and more arrive every day, overwhelming the system. Then they start making demands to have things their way. Brilliant strategy - use sheer numbers to kill the democratic process.
    Oh no soon I will be forced to gay marry a muslim

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you obviously didn't read the civil unions. yep they did at the state level which is where it should have been as it is the states job to define marriage not the SCOTUS.
    they overstepped their bounds once again.

    they didn't uphold the law but made their own law just like they did in the obamcare ruling a few days ago.

    they all need removed from the bench and arrested for the crimes against the constitution.
    they are not making rulings based on the law or constitution but based on their political ideology which is unconstitutional and
    not their job.
    Well, I did read the laws of my state that banned marriage, civil unions, and domestic partnerships to same sex couples. And I also read the legal protections that are included in marriage (including federal protections) and civil unions (none of which have any federal protections.

    Maybe you can enlighten me as to what I missed.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Scalia seems to desire affirmative action for fleshing out the supreme court bench.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    Has anyone noticed that the people in the ME are breeding like rabbits, while we allow SSM and abortion, and don't reproduce ourselves? I see that the EU is currently relocating 40,000 muslims who have come to Europe, by sending them to Greece and Spain and more arrive every day, overwhelming the system. Then they start making demands to have things their way. Brilliant strategy - use sheer numbers to kill the democratic process.
    Holy non sequitur Batman!!!

    If you are worried about breeders you should probably focus on straight people. Wow.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Holy non sequitur Batman!!!

    If you are worried about breeders you should probably focus on straight people. Wow.
    Not just any breeders. Those people, if you know what I mean.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The power to decide which marriages they accepted and didn't has kind of been in jeopardy since them colored and whites got the right to get married... don't act like it was a surprise.
    Okay, now I am having comprehension problems. Who is "they"? And what does "since them colored and whites got the right to get married" mean or have to do with anything???
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What wording, specifically?
    Something along these lines.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Majority Opinion
    The fundamental liberties protected by the Fourteenth Amendmentís Due Process Clause extend to certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy, including intimate choices defining personal identity and belief
    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf

    Also.... there is this...
    The first premise of this Courtís relevant precedents is that the right to personal choice regarding marriage is inherent in the concept of individual autonomy. This abiding connection between marriage and liberty is why Loving invalidated interracial marriage bans under the Due Process Clause. See 388 U. S., at 12. Decisions about marriage are among the most intimate that an individual can make. See Lawrence, supra, at 574. This is true for all persons, whatever their sexual orientation.
    My emphasis added via bold/underline..

    This next part really helps the argument of someone who would petition the government that plural marriages are constitutional.
    A third basis for protecting the right to marry is that it safeguards children and families and thus draws meaning from related rights of child rearing, procreation, and education. See, e.g., Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U. S. 510. Without the recognition, stability, and predictability marriage offers, children suffer the stigma of knowing their families are somehow lesser. They also suffer the significant material costs of being raised by unmarried parents, relegated to a more difficult and uncertain family life. The marriage laws at issue thus harm and humiliate the children of same-sex couples.
    Just think of a case where a man in an open relationship got another woman pregnant and wanted to marry her as well to bring her and his new child into his larger family..... for the above reasons that, according to this ruling, are protected by the constitution.


    And then of course.... the "in closing" type statement is very supportive of the right of plural marriages...
    The right to marry is a fundamental right inherent in the liberty of the person....

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