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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    how is a private religious college funded by the government?
    it isn't.

    however for the purposes it is tax exempt as much colleges are. however for them exercising their first amendment rights to religious freedom they could lose their tax exempt status for simply saying that marriage is between a man and a women and or not allowing gay couples to stay with each other.

    this decision trampled on the first amendment.
    ..the first amendment right to tax-exemption?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Being technically possible to duplicate some of the benefits of a legal marriage contract does not at all uphold unequal treatment under the law.
    actually it means they can have the same treatment under the law as a married couple. that is how civil unions were designed to begin with.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Though I'm sure someone will bring up that he was appointed after Bork was deep-sixed by Ted Kennedy due to his ideology .
    Pretend I wasn't alive back then and explain this?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yes but, they couldn't slap the face of the religious in the process.
    that is it exactly.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that is it exactly.
    I'm sorry you feel that other peoples' freedom slaps you in the face, I really am.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    ..the first amendment right to tax-exemption?
    1st amendment right to free speech and express religious views without being punished by the government for expressing those views.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    I'm pretty sure every person on all the dollar bills would be AGAINST gay marriage. Probably time to remove them and and replace them with the Kardashians(Caitlan would get the one dollar bill, of course).

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope, I don't think think you understood what I said at all. It's pretty clear. Sour grapes? It being used for the religious argument wanting to give marriage over to "the states" because they themselves cannot have control of it. exPRESSED? Whine? Some of my best work. Seriously. There are like 4 puns in one sentence.
    I know what you were trying to say, so then sour grapes reference was to a handful of people? Maybe? And, I don't know if you've heard, but when you say to "the states", that means the federal government now.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    actually it means they can have the same treatment under the law as a married couple. that is how civil unions were designed to begin with.
    Let's see, civil unions were banned to same sex couples in most states, and not one civil union has the same legal protections of marriage. So, nope, not equal protections under the law.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But the marriage rate now is about half the rate it was in the 1960's and the divorce rate has doubled. And people were far more likely to describe their marriages as good/happy then than they are now. So maybe when marriage was considered the cultural norm, that was a healthy thing. When we as a society and culture expected people to get married before living together, that was a good thing. When we as a society and culture expected people to get married before having kids, that was a very beneficial thing. And expecting to make a life together and grow old together and share experiences with kids and grandchildren together was something to anticipate instead of being unusual.

    Too many people, if they bother to get married at all, go into marriage as a trial thing fully expecting to divorce if it didn't turned out according to expectations. There is no longer any stigma to having kids, accidentally or on purpose, outside of marriage. And too many look to government to be their sugar daddy instead of building and sharing economic security together.

    Whatever the motives or reasons were for changing the definition of marriage, I cannot see it as a good thing for anybody in the long term as I do expect as a culture marriage will be even less desirable and important than before.
    Why will more people (same sex couples) getting married detract from the cultural norm of marriage? I can't connect the dots from SSM to any of those negatives you mention.

    I've mentioned my brother is gay. He's got a partner of 5 years. They can get married, or live together like they are now. I'd think them getting married is a good thing for society as opposed to preventing them from making a binding legal and personal commitment to each other. But by your reckoning, if they make a binding commitment, it leads to bad things and I don't see how or why.

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