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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    That's fair, but considering some of the comment I've seen here at DP, not specifically on this thread, related to the hatred and disrespect of people of faith, I wouldn't put it past some on the left moving in that direction, well before a million years.
    Will ya let know when it happens?


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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Turn the other cheek?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    It's not hard to see his work and know what makes him filled with glee.
    You are filling Satan with glee? Dude, just stop. This is getting gross.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    This is the second time in 2 days that the Supreme court let the GOP off the hook.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    There comes a point where picking up the sword is much more effective.
    Dylann Roof thought the same thing.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    But only a very small minority of gay couples adopt children or have children and they are doing it today, even where SSM is not legal. I know several gay couples with children, not legally married in TN, so far....

    So you're somehow assuming that gay couples with children getting married affects straight couples and reduces the likelihood of them getting or staying married or living in nice neighborhoods. I can't connect those dots. A gay couple lives a few doors down from me. If they marry, then...... nothing happens. I'm still married, so are all my married neighbors, etc.


    Again, traditional marriage will be unaffected by SSM. And if gay couples marry, how does that harm any of these benefits?



    I'm not sure of the numbers, but I'm confident that there are maybe 100 or perhaps 1,000 single straight mothers, straight divorces, broken straight families for every one gay couple with a child or children. So we are, as I see it, focusing on the least of the problems with raising children in 2015 in America. In other words, I'd suggest the goal should be to strengthen ALL families instead of focusing on preventing or limiting the rights of a very small share of families with children.



    I appreciate the sentiment otherwise, but I don't see how more marriage or more people with the right to marry signals that marriage is meaningless. I'd argue the 180 degree opposite, that it signals that marriage is important to many families, including gay families.

    What gives the signal that marriage is meaningless is a high rate of straight divorce.
    You are assuming that I assume something that I have never assumed (or said).

    What signals that marriage is becoming meaningless is the ever higher percentage of people who don't bother with it at all.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    There comes a point where picking up the sword is much more effective.
    Gay marriage really threatens you that much?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    But this Court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us.Under the Constitution, judges have power to say whatthe law is, not what it should be. The people who ratifiedthe Constitution authorized courts to exercise “neither force nor will but merely judgment.”
    Did the esteemed Chief Justice of the Supreme actually write that in his dissent a day after doing exactly what he's complaining about in the Obamacare case. Why yes he did. The man sure can talk out of both sides of his mouth.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I know what Satan likes and he's loving today's ruling.
    We all know how much Satan loves people to be happy. He's so evil.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    The SCOTUS decision was 5-4 with megalomaniac Kennedy the decider -- all pretty much predicted.

    So that means it was 4-4 along ideological lines, not about the constitution, per se.

    Then Kennedy, always wanting to be the "Me, me!" of the SCOTUS, contrived an as far reaching argument as possible, not referencing the "equal protection" clause of the 14th many thought would be referenced, but instead the "due process" clause of the 14th and in a very nebulous reference, that no one really expected.

    So watch out, boys and girls, as the next time a cat-owner wants to enter their cat in a dog show, "due process" will support 'em!

    Seriously, does anybody even care about the definition of words anymore as the foundation to determine if something like "due process" applies???

    Marriage means "between a man and a woman as husband and wife".

    There is no rational "due process" reference that can change that reality.

    And, of course, 5-4 is hardly a mandate.

    "Due process" doesn't mean you have the liberty to do whatever you want simply because you or enough of you want to. That's ludicrous!

    It's a huge stretch to say that what happens in one state must be allowed in another state, as this ruling sets precedent. Now one state can legislate anything and then every state has to allow it. There goes state's rights.

    But to step out off that limb and say that "due process" can prevent a state from declaring "we will not allow the perform of the oxymoroninc "gay marriages" in our state" is the height of Kennedy's dictatorial ego.

    Roberts is right: the constitution had nothing to do with this decision.

    Why even the four liberals were sitting on the "equal protection" clause, a plausible yet still definitively inapplicable reference with respect to the subject matter: "marriage". "Due process"? Nope .. though, sure, they'll go along with Master Kennedy, to get what they ideologically want.

    Kennedy stepped off solid constitutional ground and into irrelevant ether.

    Thus the last word simply has not been spoken here, not by a long shot.

    Religious liberty will now most certainly mount some challenges that could easily overturn this ridiculous and fragile ruling.
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