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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    This isn't the end of it. There will be lawsuit after lawsuit against churches who refuse to marry same-sex couples. Religious freedoms are now being violated.
    If by freedom you mean freedom to oppress I suppose.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    you must be to young to have been around then, but I was. So take my word for it: this wasn't an issue anyone ever heard of until the mid to late 90s. go ask anyone alive then and they will be happy to verify that.
    You said in your post that the idea of SSM wasn't even conceived until the 90's. You also asked for proof of gay groups demanding marriage in the '80s because "there were none" (paraphrased).

    Guess what, I just showed you that you were wrong on both counts.

    And fyi, I remember the 80's just fine. I remember quite clearly that SSM was being talked about.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    It's good that gays get equality. I'm sick of hearing Christian Southern Conservatives sit there and lecture straight Atheists such as myself on their rigid versions morality then turn around and openly discriminate against gays for no better or more logical reason than they discriminate against atheists such as myself.

    They're all Republicans too. So comical to see Christian Republicans sit here and claim conspiracy after conspiracy when we all know they're the ones out in real life that make life hard on everyone else simply because we don't share their Christian religiosity fanaticism.
    How very "moderate" of you. What do you think about Christian Democrats, and Christian Northern Liberals, such as the overwhelming majority of black people of faith, who oppose same sex marriage?

    Perhaps you need to get out more.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Mark my words... The next conservative move on this topic is the ol.... Take my ball and go home.... Move. They'll try to abolish marriage as a whole in their states as retaliation. And this will backfire on them immensely as wedding plans already laid out have the potential of getting obliterated by this conservative temper tantrum.

    I also wouldn't be surprised to hear talk of secession again in small corners over this.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You said in your post that the idea of SSM wasn't even conceived until the 90's. You also asked for proof of gay groups demanding marriage in the '80s because "there were none" (paraphrased).

    Guess what, I just showed you that you were wrong on both counts.

    And fyi, I remember the 80's just fine. I remember quite clearly that SSM was being talked about.
    well then ask anyone besides yourself and they will tell you. it was not an issue anyone heard of. stop it.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I said this earlier in the thread, but I suspect old polygamy challenges can be dusted off and made more compelling by adding most of the majority opinion. Roberts' decent made this exact point.
    But the basic problem with prohibitions on gay marriage is the opposition to SSM couldn't articulate a compelling reason other than, paraphrased, "We don't like it" or "The Bible tells me so" for those prohibitions.

    Frankly if in a court of law the opponents of polygamy can't do better than those opposed to SSM, then it should be legal. I'm agnostic - never thought about the subject and don't care to investigate the pros and cons - so I'm not supporting it, but knowing what I know now (not much) I'd say to those folks, "your life, your choice." I don't really feel it's my business to interfere with someone else's family arrangement unless I can articulate a VERY strong argument why, because I don't care what you (in a broad sense) think about mine.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It would be hard to legitimately strike down those restrictions based off this decision, because there is no distinction of people bring discriminated against there, are legitimate legal considerations for such restrictions on number of legal spouses a person has, as well as very few if any of the arguments made for or against polygamy are the same arguments for or against same sex marriage.
    You are discriminating against people who are already married. Why can't they love another person and be able to express that love through another marriage? How does it affect you if I have 3 wives and one of my wives has 6 husbands?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well let me play devil's advocate and tell you why heterosexual marriage should have been protected and preserved as well as encouraged by the federal government in order to fulfill its constitutional obligation to promote the general welfare:.
    I notice that you keep making a reference to "study after study" without actually providing a citation to any study, let along multiples. On the other hand, here is a study published very recently in the Social Science Research journal that found there was no evidence that children of same sex couples are negatively impacted.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0615103946.htm

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Equal rights is something promised by our constitution. For too long those of a religious mindset have demanded that rights should only be granted as they see fit. I don't expect to change the minds of anyone who is against gay marriage, especially since most of them base it on superstition not empathy. I do, however feel the need to say congratz to those vindicated today with their victory towards equality.

    I feel no pity for those who oppress others in the name of their religion for their lose of right to discriminate.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    How very "moderate" of you. What do you think about Christian Democrats, and Christian Northern Liberals, such as the overwhelming majority of black people of faith, who oppose same sex marriage?

    Perhaps you need to get out more.
    I think they're just as silly considering their faith in a non-existent entity is a silly reason to be against those who don't believe in that fairy tale or who have other lifestyle. So what? Live and let live.


    Let's be honest. It boils down to a lot of fat white conservative guys who aren't getting laid. That's what it boils down to and we all know it. Fat white conservative men can't get the women they want so they band together under the guise of religion to seek revenge against anyone who can or who has another world view.

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