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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    What exactly about my marriage makes you angry? How is it hurting you?

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.
    Except most Americans reject that back-ass-wards view as straight up homophobic nonsense.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Sounds good to me!


    I never understood why this issue was so important... I feel like people committed their lives politically just on this issue, which to me is ridiculous on both sides...

    Who the hell cares? I don't care if you marry your dog...Marry your genitalia... or car...It means nothing to me

    Now... There are people dying, starving, and the country is tanking economically with large separations in economic and political opinion on foreign relations

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.
    All polls I've seen disagree with you. A majority of the polls show 60%+ in favor of same sex marriage.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Fantastic news, but I would like to read the actual decision. I was concerned about how the ruling would handle who gets to decide the question on defining marriage, and I suspect the dissent centers around State's rights for what the Constitution does not grant in power to the Federal Level.
    There were four separate dissents, which is pretty rare. Last time it occurred was Gore v. Bush, I believe.

    And from what I understand, the decision was written in a way to try and be very limited as it relates to potentially other non-traditional types of marriage. But, that will be a case for another day.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    This is the worst. Thing. A. Supreme Court. Can. Do. It is tyranny.
    nah. i'd say upholding slavery was the worst.

    if you want to flip out about yesterday's decision, i'd almost be sympathetic. i heard that one, and i was a little surprised. today's decision is solid as ****, though. equal protection under the law is equal protection under the law. this is no different than Loving v Virginia. sexual orientation is analogous to race. you were born straight, and they were born gay. you can't deny them a fundamental right.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I think the left supports the decision because they're under the impression that all Conservatives oppose Gay marriage.

    I don't really care one way or the other.

    We have much more important issues to deal with.
    I think conservatives are going to try and downplay their opposition to same sex marriage or to cover themselves by cloaking the argument in a state's rights style of argument.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Incorrect.

    The states have the right to define marriage, but that is still constrained by the 14th amendment. All state authority is. As an example, a state has a right to define marriage, but they do not have the right to define marriage as between a Jewish man and a Jewish woman only.
    Marriage has been defined for thousands of years. Now it has been redefined by the SCOTUS at the federal level. Are they now going to FORCE churches to perform same-sex marriages even if it violates their religious beliefs? There is NO GOOD that can come of this.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
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    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    nah. i'd say upholding slavery was the worst.
    Oh you mean exactly the same thing they did today, then? Exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about?

    It doesn't matter if you're talking about Dred Scott, Roe, or this newest abomination.


    Maintaining the integrity of the Constitution is their job. When they not only fail to do that, but they directly violate the Constitution themselves and make up new "rights" willy nilly and force them against the states appropriate of nothing, that is tyranny.

    When the foxes rule the henhouse, it's game over.
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