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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That would be a pretty crappy wine company, since you would have no wine. In other words, you are applying that old saying incorrectly.

    Unless, of course, your premise is that anyone that disagrees with the ruling really agrees with it but are saying it is no good because they won't ever be able to be in a gay marriage. Is that what you mean? Because that's what you are saying.
    uh...what?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    the idea of gay marriage wasn't conceived or thought of till the 90's. if you can show me one gay group in the 80's who demanded to get married I would love to see it. but since no evidence exists maybe you can see my point(who am I kidding. of course you don't)
    In the early 1970s, amid a burst of gay activism unleashed by the Stonewall riots in Greenwich Village, several same-sex couples filed lawsuits demanding marriage licenses. Courts did not take their arguments very seriously. A trial judge in Kentucky instructed one lesbian plaintiff that she would not be permitted into the courtroom unless she exchanged her pantsuit for a dress. Minnesota Supreme Court justices would not dignify the gay-marriage claim by asking even a single question at oral argument.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Once the court announced it would hear this, the decision was a foregone conclusion.
    Well they tried their asses off to avoid hearing it but two lwer courts produced conflicting rulings which forced their hand.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We are in an age where any decision can be justified broadly. I'm not gay and none of my family (that I know of) is gay or wants to have a gay marriage so this affects me personally not at all. I'm however glad that people can gain benefits, visiting rights in hospitals, etc....
    they could have done all of this without marriage.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    It's good that gays get equality. I'm sick of hearing Christian Southern Conservatives sit there and lecture straight Atheists such as myself on their rigid versions morality then turn around and openly discriminate against gays for no better or more logical reason than they discriminate against atheists such as myself.

    They're all Republicans too. So comical to see Christian Republicans sit here and claim conspiracy after conspiracy when we all know they're the ones out in real life that make life hard on everyone else simply because we don't share their Christian religiosity fanaticism.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    This is a bad week for America and Americans. The moral fabric of the USA is coming apart at the seams. The SCOTUS has just redefined "marriage". The Red Diaper Doper babies are succeeding in taking down America from the inside without even firing a shot. Just as Krustev promised a half century ago.
    And here comes the morality police under the title "very conservative" which is supposed to mean smaller government.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Ok then, the federal judiciary recognized marriage to be a fundamental right in three well known cases, however, the question of who could marry outside of race, and ethnicity, was left to the states to regulate. They said nothing about same sex, or plural marriage, or any other kind of marriage because, those things were, as it were, unrecognizable. Now the USSC has said, oh, wait, sorry states, we know say that you are free to regulate marriage BUT, you must not regulate gender, or sexual orientation as criterion... Next it will be, oh sorry states, yes you are free to regulate marriage as you see fit, however, you may not regulate marriage to exclude multiple partners.. But other than that, go ahead and regulate to your hearts content.

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    Your post is riddled with errors

    There are more than three cases which hold that marriage is a fundamental right

    States were not allowed to regulate who could marry outside of [their] race.

    SCOTUS has ruled that laws forbidding polygamy are constitutional

    There is no "other kind of marriage" that is relevant here. We're discussing civil marriage and civil marriage alone

    And as far as the courts limiting the power of states to regulate marriage, the court is unable to do so arbitrarily. Your implication that this decision was legally unjustified and arbitrary is contradicted by the scores of pages of text in this decision in which they demonstrate the constitutional requirements for not allowing states to prohibit SSM.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Apparently they argued it is both a fundamental right and a necessity under equality under the law.

    Scalia was...pissed. Not really any other word to describe him. His dissent reads like a rant.
    All his dissents do. Read yesterday's scalia dissent on obamacare.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It would be hard to legitimately strike down those restrictions based off this decision, because there is no distinction of people bring discriminated against there, are legitimate legal considerations for such restrictions on number of legal spouses a person has, as well as very few if any of the arguments made for or against polygamy are the same arguments for or against same sex marriage.
    How very accepting of you. Funny how you're not interested in equal protection for all social relationship contracts, just the ones you support.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    you must be to young to have been around then, but I was. So take my word for it: this wasn't an issue anyone ever heard of until the mid to late 90s. go ask anyone alive then and they will be happy to verify that.

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