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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Just out: U S S.Ct. rules that there is a constitutional right to same sex marriage, going further than just ruling that states have to recognize it, if performed in a state where it's legal.

    This has an impact on the 14 states that have passed laws banning it.

    NOTE: The ruling was NOT just that states have to recognize it. The ruling is that it is now LEGAL, being constitutionally protected. It COULD HAVE made the ruling more narrow, but it did not. It went all the way. The matter is now settled. Gay marriage is legal, like interracial marriage is.

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    Supreme Court rules states must allow same-sex marriage - CNNPolitics.com
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The definition of marriage was changed by people, a lot of people, using it to describe same sex couples in the same type of relationship as married opposite sex couples.
    yeah, i got that part. I just missed the part where the citizens voted for it.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They've always been a crap shoot. This isn't the first time they've ruled on something controversial, or that pissed people off or even with a split court. We wouldn't need 9 Justices if the decisions were all or even mostly straight forward, or if no personal bias were involved on either or both sides.
    Here in Canada, as an example, even though the political ideology of our court is varied, the Supreme Court itself strives to issue decisions and rulings that are almost always unanimous or in the vast majority. We seldom have the type of division in our Supreme Court that you have.

    Rulings should be fairly straight forward and shouldn't have political or personal bias - that's basically the oath of office. If a justice can't adhere to his/her oath, he/she should resign. The court is not such a vehicle. It's why we have elected government.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Wow...

    Now we just sit back and wait for the next natural disaster so it can be blamed on this ruling.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What I find interesting is they somehow found a right for gays to marry in the constitution, but can't seem to find the right to keep and bear arms.....
    Did you just forget DC v. Heller?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You are correct as far as the college goes. But that isn't a church so . As for pastors being sued for not performing SSM. Guess what? Pastors in churches have always been able to deny performing a marriage. Or to be more specific, pastors dedicated to specific religious marriages have been able to deny performing a marriage. I know this because my mother in law's pastor refused to perform my wife and I's marriage on the grounds that we 1: were not Christian and 2: We did not attend their church. This ability will not change.

    But if it somehow does end up being as you imagine then I will fight just as strongly for religious freedom as I did for SSM.
    A religious college has the right to dictate the morale compliance of it's students. it is a religious college. that should be a protected right.
    however as was told during the trial this ruling tramps on religious organizations protected religious freedoms.

    you have 1 right tramping on another which is unconstitutional.
    the SCOTUS might as well pre-pare itself for all the legal challenges that are headed its say and we will see if kennedy is right that these organization still maintain
    their religious freedom.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Ask your question using understandable english - all people have distinguishing features.
    Ok then, the federal judiciary recognized marriage to be a fundamental right in three well known cases, however, the question of who could marry outside of race, and ethnicity, was left to the states to regulate. They said nothing about same sex, or plural marriage, or any other kind of marriage because, those things were, as it were, unrecognizable. Now the USSC has said, oh, wait, sorry states, we now say that you are free to regulate marriage BUT, you must not regulate gender, or sexual orientation as criterion... Next it will be, oh sorry states, yes you are free to regulate marriage as you see fit, however, you may not regulate marriage to exclude multiple partners.. But other than that, go ahead and regulate to your hearts content.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    you went too far back in time!!!!

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because marriage causes societal benefits that the govt has a legitimate interest in promoting
    Unless the government has a societal interest in the well being of divorce attorneys, that's just bull**** in the 21st century.

    Other than for purposes of procreation and child rearing, marriage is irrelevant to government. And since single people are deemed appropriate for adopting and raising children, and single people can conceive a child through artificial means, promoting procreation and child rearing is no longer a valid rationale for marriage in a secular society.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I said this earlier in the thread, but I suspect old polygamy challenges can be dusted off and made more compelling by adding most of the majority opinion. Roberts' decent made this exact point.
    It would be hard to legitimately strike down those restrictions based off this decision, because there is no distinction of people bring discriminated against there, are legitimate legal considerations for such restrictions on number of legal spouses a person has, as well as very few if any of the arguments made for or against polygamy are the same arguments for or against same sex marriage.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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