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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Democracy is the masses oppressing the minority. If we put civil liberties up to democratic vote, minorities like myself, minorities like Hatuey, and minorities here on the forum that are in the LGBTQ community would never have the basic freedoms and ability to join the commonwealth.
    I'm starting to think that the majority of people who are opposed to everyone else having the same things they do are young Midwestern/Southern protestant men between the ages of 25-65 and with an income above the $45K mark but bellow $100K. There are exceptions of course. The black community, for all of its support of Democrats on different issues, has quite a sizeable population of congregations that have shown some opposition to gay marriage. However, they're nowhere near as vocal as the other group I've mentioned. To believe that our rights and benefits should be left up to these people is absolute insanity and has never been practiced in the history of the US. Ever. Even in the dark ages of the 1800s, people were bringing court cases against established traditions like the disenfranchisement of poor whites and blacks.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    So you are notifying me of what some alleged non-corporeal entity from a supposed different universe likes? A being that has never been proven to exist in this reality. Sounds like you two are buddy-buddy. And I am supposed to care about what some fictional being likes why? Am I supposed to care what Cthuhlu and the Tooth Fairy likes also?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Also, noticed your post on your question of polygamy. I'm pretty sure that this ruling didn't affect that. But I honestly think that it should. After all, it is still a marriage between two consenting adults.
    Well...more than two adults, hence the term polygamy. Heh.

    But the primary issue that someone challenging a law preventing polygamy is that they have to overcome the State's legitimate interest of preventing fraud and folks being able to claim the tax benefits without any of the associated societal benefits.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no they can't not now. a pastor has the ability to sign off on a marriage they technically act in the authority of the state to do so. they can be sued and the church can now be sued for not allowing gay marriage.

    a Christian college that only allows men and women who are married to live together can now be sued for not allowing a gay couple.
    same goes for a whole host of other religious organizations.

    the SCOTUS today just tossed out the 1st amendment on it's ear.
    they should be ashamed of themselves.
    You are correct as far as the college goes. But that isn't a church so . As for pastors being sued for not performing SSM. Guess what? Pastors in churches have always been able to deny performing a marriage. Or to be more specific, pastors dedicated to specific religious marriages have been able to deny performing a marriage. I know this because my mother in law's pastor refused to perform my wife and I's marriage on the grounds that we 1: were not Christian and 2: We did not attend their church. This ability will not change.

    But if it somehow does end up being as you imagine then I will fight just as strongly for religious freedom as I did for SSM.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I, for one, have indicated my religious and legal opinion on the subject. The religious aspect trumps man's law though.
    Lmao, yeah, welcome to America, 21st century America, religion doesn't trump our laws. Get use to it.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Masha Gessen:

    I agree that we should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it is a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. . . Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there, because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie. The institution of marriage is going to change, and it should change, and again, I don’t think it should exist.

    I sometimes think that gay marriage advocates are acting in bad faith.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I, for one, have indicated my religious and legal opinion on the subject. The religious aspect trumps man's law though.
    That would actually make sense if we lived in a THEOCRACY. But we don't. So your religious beliefs have no bearing.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Or you could own up to your hatred of your fellow man and your embrace of evil.
    If that were true I damn sure would. Not much for mincing words.

    Now back to the abortion question....
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    "Many people will rejoice at this decision, and I begrudge none their celebration. But for those who believe in a government of laws, not of men, the majority's approach is deeply disheartening," he wrote. "... The majority's decision is an act of will, not legal judgment."

    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

    we don't have a court that upholds the constitution. we have a court that does whatever the hell it wants based on the political view of the justices.

    2 times in 1 week they have failed up hold the constitution and instead come up with unconstitutional acts.

    the entire bench needs to be removed and arrested for violation of their duty this week. they have proven that they are not capable of office or capable of
    constitutional judgement just whatever whim they want to pass when they want to pass it.

    next we will see them stopping all over religious rights next.
    We are in an age where any decision can be justified broadly. I'm not gay and none of my family (that I know of) is gay or wants to have a gay marriage so this affects me personally not at all. I'm however glad that people can gain benefits, visiting rights in hospitals, etc....
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    That would actually make sense if we lived in a THEOCRACY. But we don't. So your religious beliefs have no bearing.
    You happy ass secular feelings and emotions do nothing for me.
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