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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    See^^^ It's already happening. You do realize that by virtue of your statement you are invalidating the right of a person to religiously express their faith. This right is precisely the right to pick and choose!


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    I think eventually it will be a voluntary decision by most churches to marry SS couples. Religion needs to stay relevant in modern society or lose members and since younger generations are more accepting of LGTB the changes will come on their own. A good example is the LDS church changing it's doctrine about blacks.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    In fairness, they haven't actually done that yet, but they HAVE set themselves up for many challenges in the future.

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    which means they did it. if they had upheld the constitution then it wouldn't have mattered. they chose to ignore the constitution and the law and enact their own
    policy. now they have provided a way to up sure religious freedom in this country.

    you will see pastors and churches sued for not allowing gay weddings. you will see other religious organizations sued for standing up for their beliefs.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    I think you don't understand the Constitution. It ennumerates our rights in general, but does not rule on specific real life situations and how they may apply to our rights. The founding fathers set up the court system to "interpret" the Constitutional protections, as they apply to real life situations. Real life situations would be so numerous and varied that there could never be a list of them all, not to mention that some situations in the future could not have been foreseen by our founding fathers.

    So...the three branches of govt were set up to deal with real life situations. The U.S. S.Ct. being the ultimate and final determiner of the interpretation of the Constitution.

    And so said our founding fathers.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support the ruling, but in its wake I hope the religious are not repressed, oppressed or attacked. I hope that religious freedoms prevail when it comes to those not wanting to recognize or provide services to homosexuals weddings
    You can bet the bank that those activists are plotting just that. This is just part of the incremental process.

    This sets this country on yet another slippery slope. [that the Left doesn't believe in]
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I think eventually it will be a voluntary decision by most churches to marry SS couples. Religion needs to stay relevant in modern society or lose members and since younger generations are more accepting of LGTB the changes will come on their own. A good example is the LDS church changing it's doctrine about blacks.
    So then you agree with the 4 dissenting judges? Because this is exactly what they said in their dissent, ALL OF THEM in rebutting the majorities reliance on Due Process.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    4 justices already provided that basis, reinforced by court decisions that go back to 1971. This decision is a complete departure from 230+ years of precedence and was made based on feelings and emotions.

    And thats FINE. The SCOTUS is ultimately populated by 'people' that have an obvious political bent. While I think that is horrid and even dangerous...it is what it is.
    ya think? 5 lawyers just changes the definition of a word that has been around(and a vital part of society) since the dawn of man. and the left thinks we should all just shut up and get in line. doesn't work that way. They could make a ruling tomorrow saying the sky is orange and not blue. doesn't mean everyone blindly goes along. you mostly just smirk and slowly shake your head and just move on with your life.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    I could start my own wine company with the collective amount of sour grapes being expressed over this decision...
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Four justices including the Chief Justice saying this decision had nothing whatsoever to do with the Constitution might give you a clue however. But hey, I've been saying the court is rogue for some time now. There's no doubt now, we've accepted being ruled by the Ayatollahs.
    I promised to get back to you, so here is what I can tell from reading(skimming alot since I am time pressed) Roberts dissent. First, the guy can write! He is really well spoken and articulate and able to turn a phrase, kinda reminding me somewhat of Ginsberg in that respect. I always enjoy reading his opinions.

    His big argument is that the court should not decide which unenumerated rights are "fundamental" for purposes of the 14th. I am not sure that is a particularly strong argument since that is how such rights are recognized and that marriage has repeatedly been stated as a fundamental right for quite some time. Seems kinda late in the game to be saying "oh, but not it really isn't".
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    ya think? 5 lawyers just changes the definition of a word that has been around(and a vital part of society) since the dawn of man. and the left thinks we should all just shut up and get in line. doesn't work that way. They could make a ruling tomorrow saying the sky is orange and not blue. doesn't mean everyone blindly goes along. you mostly just smirk and slowly shake your head and just move on with your life.
    People can still choose to fight it...legally. They just shouldnt be a dick about it.

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