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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    This isn't the end of it. There will be lawsuit after lawsuit against churches who refuse to marry same-sex couples. Religious freedoms are now being violated.
    Ah, yes, the end of the world is near! Lawsuits! Religious oppression! The REAL victims are the religious! Etc.... blah, blah, blah.

    I wouldn't worry - we have other rights to protect churches. They'll be fine, and can continue to oppose SSM all they want, refuse to marry SS couples, etc. same way they can refuse to marry straight couples for pretty much any reason.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The 14th amendment is part of the constitution, it's application is pretty straightforward.
    Apparently not. You'll note Kennedy's lack of any consideration whatsoever regarding a compelling interest. This is not straightforward application of equal protection law.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Signing the document was done in my husband's aunt's house, where the officiant had me, my husband, my best friend, and his best friend (our witnesses) all sign, then she signed it. The clerk who gave us the license didn't require the witnesses nor any but our ID cards.
    Yes but the officiant had to have legal standing with the state did she not?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Some of us are starting to understand how the colonists felt. Perhaps it's coming on time again.
    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Yes but the officiant had to have legal standing with the state did she not?
    Yes, only in signing up to be able to basically sign the document. That doesn't matter though, despite objections. It might change in the future, but since most people don't care to see that happen, it isn't likely to happen. And this doesn't really violate any laws or the Constitution because it is a ceremony, which could be done for free. In fact, many people get ordained just to do a wedding for a friend or family member, without getting paid at all.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It soils the institution of marriage but, more importantly, it solidifies the idea that we're not a democracy....we're lorded over by 5 unelected and robed buffoons who call all the shots.

    It's ridiculous and infuriating that Justice Kennedy, by himself, can lord over 350 million people without receiving a single vote
    Frankly what soils the institution of marriage more to me is someone like Newt Gingrich getting serially married to his former mistresses, etc. But that's not much. My marriage is between me and my wife, and I cherish it, but I can't see how Newt's 4th or Rush Limbaugh's 5th or my brother's 1st affects mine.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrT View Post
    The decision by the Supreme Court not to review the appeal from this case is a decision by the Supreme Court.

    #Win
    The Supreme Court did no such thing. Quit making stuff up. You learned something today. Be happy and move on.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The 14th amendment is part of the constitution, it's application is pretty straightforward. Not liking a ruling does not mean it is wrong.
    Another that doesn't know what happened. Do you know what a "State" is in this country?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No the book and I have no power over you but, our Lord definitely does....Bro
    What's this "our" bullcrap? Your deity is not my deity.I am not bound one iota by your religious beliefs. I am bound by my own. If your deity has a problem with me,he knows where to find me.As It stands I am healthy,have a great wife,wonderful kids,beautiful grandchildren,a successful career,great friends,and plenty of wealth. I believe that I am,what you might called,blessed. And I am thankful for it. I don't need to thank you or your "Lord" for that.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes, only in signing up to be able to basically sign the document. That doesn't matter though, despite objections. It might change in the future, but since most people don't care to see that happen, it isn't likely to happen. And this doesn't really violate any laws or the Constitution because it is a ceremony, which could be done for free. In fact, many people get ordained just to do a wedding for a friend or family member, without getting paid at all.
    I agree, most people don't care who signs or refuses to sign a marriage document, including myself. However, I can guarantee there will be lawsuits when some minister, who has legal standing with the state to sign said document, refuses to do so because the couple is same sex.

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