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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Very bad week for the GOP. Heads exploding all over the place. LOL
    So it's all about politics?
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Lol, that's not a Supreme Court case.

    Fail.
    The decision by the Supreme Court not to review the appeal from this case is a decision by the Supreme Court.

    #Win

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why shouldn't they be able to sign that document? It doesn't hurt anyone at all for them to do it, even if they are allowed to refuse to sign it for some people. And them doing it saves the state money in having to provide more people to be available to sign those documents.
    First no money will be saved by the state. As far as I'm concerned it's all said and done when a couple goes to the courthouse to get said marriage license and they make you raise your right hand and swear the oath. The more important issue is if the state is authorizing certain individuals such as ministers/priests to legally witness and sign a secular legal document I think we get on shaky ground when said person refuses to sign said document for particular people. The state aught to stay out of religious affairs and vice versa.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just to make the point, the 14th amendment is the rule of law. It made this decision inevitable.
    Of course, gay marriage has been a "constitutional right" ever since 1868. And so has marrying trees, but we won't discover that was the author's secret intent until 2172.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    So it's all about politics?
    Yes. Welcome to the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Marriage equality was denied on the basis of politics and it has now been expanded due to politics.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    Churches will be in violation of federal law if they refuse. I can GUARANTEE to you there will be discrimination lawsuits against churches who refuse to marry gay couples. Hell, even private business have been sued for refusing to provide service to same-sex couples.
    Actually no. Currently, churches already can and do decide who they as an institution will marry. As was brought up in the oral arguments for this very case, a rabbi is not required by law, and can withing the law, refuse to marry a Jewish person to a nonjew.

    Anecdote, and not consistant with my experience with growing up with a gay mother. That is the thing, not all parents, straight or gay, are perfect. Many(or all really) are less than perfect. It is still preferable to have children raised in two parent households, even if those parents happen to be the same sex.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    First no money will be saved by the state. As far as I'm concerned it's all said and done when a couple goes to the courthouse to get said marriage license and they make you raise your right hand and swear the oath. The more important issue is if the state is authorizing certain individuals such as ministers/priests to legally witness and sign a secular legal document I think we get on shaky ground when said person refuses to sign said document for particular people. The state aught to stay out of religious affairs and vice versa.
    It's illegal to bar someone from holding a job because of their faith, and rightfully so.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Well what do you know,there world didn't end.
    Not necessarily 'this' world you need to worry about.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.
    i realized I'm quoting this 2 hours later in an incredibly fast-moving thread but...

    you do realize a majority of americans support gay marriage, right? you also realize that something like 80% of people under 35 support gay marriage, right? so how can you reconcile that with what you've posted here?

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just to make the point, the 14th amendment is the rule of law. It made this decision inevitable.
    Even the Chief Justice disagrees with you on that one. This was a very clear abandonment of oath and illegitimate amendment to constitution by five justices, and noted as such by the remaining justices, including the Chief.
    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

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