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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Of course you're right, but this is just one more knock against marriage. Marriage favors the woman anyway, the justice system has already taken divorce law to where your wife can cheat on you, if you divorce her, she gets HALF.

    I don't really want to get saddled with that level of financial risk. This decision today just zaps whatever there was about marriage that was pure or worth pursuing anyway....because there is no logical reason for a well off man to marry, the only reason would have been emotional or traditional. Well, now those reasons are finito as well
    Dood..did you just read what you said?

    Come on, man. Step back. Breathe. If THAT is how you define the positives and negatives of 'marriage' then you cant POSSIBLY put that on 'gay marriage'. And if we are being honest...you probably would feel better with a blanket apology to people on this forum for letting your emotions get the better of you. Its not personal. Dont make it personal. Dont take it personally.

    I've been married 33 years. Its been a battle but its also been fricken awesome. Never once has divorce come up as a possibility and the last thing ever on my mind would be about the negative financial aspect of separation and divorce. Dont tlet those things cloud your opinion on what is and always will be a powerful and beautiful thing.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Tell me, why is it that when a conservative hears facts they don't like, reads an academic study by trained researchers whose conclusions disagree with their dogma, it is instantly because it's a "left wing organization?" Are you really that incapable of thinking that people who don't share your narrow view of the world are incapable of research?!
    The vast majority of Colleges and Universities lean left...some far left. Fact. Therefore, not a valid source of information. Not because I'm to the right, but because they're biased. The left is well-known to twist and distort information to further their agenda. Are you really incapable of forming your opinions on facts rather than what the left tells you is the right thing to believe?

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not if you aren't taking care of her. Alimony is not common unless there is a difference in the amount of support one adult human has been providing to another, and that is due mainly to their roles in the marriage.
    I make 5 times what she makes, I'm sure I'd be strapped with alimony

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I have no particular interest in this subject other than I don't believe that government should be in the business of sanctioning or banning individual, legally contracted, relationships and they shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers based on their piece of paper. I believe every individual, for purposes of love or security or whatever other reason, should be able to enter into a contracted relationship that is honoured and respected by government and the courts. If you can enter into a contract to have your lawn mowed, and that contract can be adjudicated in court based on the terms of the contract, there's zero reason why only a government issued piece of paper validates a relationship contract.

    That said, the issue here in Canada has been a non-issue for the most part. No churches have been mandated to marry anyone and never will. It's possible, in the US, where the left takes everything to extremes and goes way overboard that there will be a push to punish the religious right by trying to force them into performing same sex marriages, but I would hope they wouldn't.

    The next move, if the right is serious about the so called damage this will cause society, will be for them to push to have government eliminate all benefits that accrue to those who hold paper. Tax and other law should be based on individuals and the rights of individuals. To do otherwise will open up the courts to the next wave of social, sexual, rights seekers.
    The left affirmed in the ruling that religious institutions are protected by the 1st amendment from being forced to recognize same-sex marriage. The very ruling that makes same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states is now the precedent that forever protects churches and other religious institutions from having to recognize or support them.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, personal opinion and emotion is what you are using to decide that the state has a legitimate interest in denying same-sex couples a marriage license.
    Dont be silly. I am accepting law. I am citing the justices emotional response. And you are somehow shtting yourself over that fact.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Yes it does.
    Nope. You can continue to repeat this, but so far, the SCOTUS has not agreed with you. And that isn't likely to change soon, considering it would mean anyone could use religion as an excuse to simply not obey public accommodation laws. We are more likely to see PA laws be voted down than see the SCOTUS overrule them.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You call yourself a libertarian while suggesting that Americans should be able to vote away the freedom of other Americans.
    If the republic is to continue, I want to work to promote liberty within the rule of law and will vote for politicians who espouse the same values.

    I don't care how many people want to get "married" or whether how many of them are having sex with the others and which ones. Don't give a damn about it, in fact.

    I do care about the rule of law, and this spits on it. This is evidence of corruption and incompetence within the Supreme Court. It is clear they have no interest or ability to perform their duties.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    The vast majority of Colleges and Universities lean left...some far left. Fact. Therefore, not a valid source of information. Not because I'm to the right, but because they're biased. The left is well-known to twist and distort information to further their agenda. Are you really incapable of forming your opinions on facts rather than what the left tells you is the right thing to believe?
    Thank you for proving my point. You do not believe that non-conservatives are capable of doing research. I will dismiss your opinions now, since they are obviously rooted in a deep-seeded bias that you are incapable of understanding.
    “The Bible has noble poetry in it... and some good morals and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies.” ― Mark Twain

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    Are you really incapable of forming your opinions on facts rather than what the left tells you is the right thing to believe?
    Says the guy holding up a right-wing, biased study, as the only valid information in the world on the subject.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Nope. Either you just worship authority and can't think for yourself, or you're pretending this is the case because its convenient.
    Part of living in a society is accepting the rules therein and the decisions which establish them. We can't always get everything we want.

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