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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    bahahahahahahahhahahahahah

    "I'll just pretend there's no legal justification. If I didn't see it, it doesn't exist!"
    Their legal justification was a bastardized interpretation of an amendment that was decided on multiple times in the past. This isnt the first time this issue has come up, nor is it the first time the 14th was considered. They used personal opinion and emotional appeal to force it to fit where Supreme Court justices on several occasions in the past said they did not fit.

    It is what it is. An opinion based on feelings, not law. And so be it. This is the system we have.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Depends on state laws. If you open a flower shop and refuse to participate in an interracial wedding or interfaith wedding or Jewish wedding or atheist wedding, are you going to be prosecuted for doing so? Why is it okay for you to face punishment for refusing to participate in those other weddings but not for a same sex wedding?
    If the objection is a sincere, established religious belief, any attempt to force someone to participate violates the first amendment.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Clearly not. You either think it takes magical robes to read the holy text, or you dishonestly pretend this is the case for what could be a variety of reasons, all of which involve negative character traits.

    You call yourself a libertarian while having no respect for the rule of law and supporting judicial fiat bypassing the amendment process.
    You call yourself a libertarian while suggesting that Americans should be able to vote away the freedom of other Americans. You think Americans have the right to use the government as a bludgeon against someone else's personal choice.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I was just on a flight with a gay flight attendant. Everyone was nice to his face but they were laughing at him behind his back.
    I was just on a flight with a muslim who was waiting until the sun officially set so he could break his ramadan fast. Nice guy, had a very good conversation with him.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah the tax breaks are appealing, but the risk of paying alimony to an adult human being outweighs that, logically
    Pre-nuptial agreements. I was already wealthy and my wife was very well off when we got ours.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Religion isn't a Sunday morning from 9-10 kind of thing. If I believe participating in a ceremony will send my soul to hell, do you think it is ok for the government to force me to do it?
    Then don't participate in it. But make sure you either a) don't own a business where that would be an issue (don't participate in any wedding ceremonies) or b) earn enough money to ensure that if you are sued, you can settle.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    This isn't the end of it. There will be lawsuit after lawsuit against churches who refuse to marry same-sex couples. Religious freedoms are now being violated.
    No, there won't. This ruling does not rewrite anti-discrimination statutes of the states or the federal government.

    In addition, genuine religious organizations are not subject to those anti-discrimination statues, unless they operate a facility as a public accommodation. E.g. if Our Lady of Perpetual Motion RC Church only allows its parishioners to use the church for marriages, anti-discrimination laws don't apply. If OLPMRCC rents out its meeting hall to anyone for any purpose, then the anti-discrimination laws apply, and only to that meeting hall.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrT View Post
    Does today's future have any direct impact or permit any of those types of non-traditional marriage? No.

    Will future attorneys try and use today's ruling to make the argument for those types of marriages in the future? Probably.

    But when they do, they will have to overcome the Government's argument that the prohibition helps to prevent fraud and tax evasion (for polygamy) and that the situation will not lead to abuse (in the case of underage marriage) and that the marriage will not likely be the result of undue influence (very close familial marriage).
    Don't see where, or why, they would have a valid argument against polygamy and close relation. Probably will start to see those lawsuits in the next few months.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Clearly not. You either think it takes magical robes to read the holy text, or you dishonestly pretend this is the case for what could be a variety of reasons, all of which involve negative character traits.

    You call yourself a libertarian while having no respect for the rule of law and supporting judicial fiat bypassing the amendment process.
    No, I just recognize true expertise and authority where it exists and you, my "libertarian" friend, have none.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Because you stole marriage from me and made it something dirty
    You poor thing you. Maybe you need to just grow up!

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