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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I have no particular interest in this subject other than I don't believe that government should be in the business of sanctioning or banning individual, legally contracted, relationships and they shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers based on their piece of paper. I believe every individual, for purposes of love or security or whatever other reason, should be able to enter into a contracted relationship that is honoured and respected by government and the courts. If you can enter into a contract to have your lawn mowed, and that contract can be adjudicated in court based on the terms of the contract, there's zero reason why only a government issued piece of paper validates a relationship contract.

    That said, the issue here in Canada has been a non-issue for the most part. No churches have been mandated to marry anyone and never will. It's possible, in the US, where the left takes everything to extremes and goes way overboard that there will be a push to punish the religious right by trying to force them into performing same sex marriages, but I would hope they wouldn't.

    The next move, if the right is serious about the so called damage this will cause society, will be for them to push to have government eliminate all benefits that accrue to those who hold paper. Tax and other law should be based on individuals and the rights of individuals. To do otherwise will open up the courts to the next wave of social, sexual, rights seekers.
    I don't know about Canada, but here in the U.S.A, the govenment treats married people differently than singles, so they should not be able to discrimiate against SSM.


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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Yes, I have read the plain English of the United States Constitution as written and as amended and I expect it to be upheld and followed by the government that would have no authority to exist or to do anything whatsoever without it.

    When they grievously break this contract, there is no reason for anyone else to follow it.
    Other than your dogmatic insistence that you know better than the USSC (LOL at that, by the way), what is your basis for making these claims? A JD? Years of experience on the bench? Trial experience? Civil Rights law experience? Have you worked for the ACLU, FIRE, Lambda Legal, or any other pro-bono legal agency?
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Then do it. But you won't have the same protections or benefits that my husband and I have, or will pay more for them just because of your stubbornness. If you're fine with that, it doesn't bother me.
    Yeah the tax breaks are appealing, but the risk of paying alimony to an adult human being outweighs that, logically

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Haha I'm far from old, pal
    It is a mindset.
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    I raise my glass from this end of the pond to my many friends who will have their lives changed and improved by this. Geez, finally.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    Oh, I am quite educated, thank you.
    Clearly not. You either think it takes magical robes to read the holy text, or you dishonestly pretend this is the case for what could be a variety of reasons, all of which involve negative character traits.

    You call yourself a libertarian while having no respect for the rule of law and supporting judicial fiat bypassing the amendment process.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Is your flower shop a church? A religion? Is its primary purpose to serve paying customers?



    Crazy goal post move buddy.
    Religion isn't a Sunday morning from 9-10 kind of thing. If I believe participating in a ceremony will send my soul to hell, do you think it is ok for the government to force me to do it?
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by GunFora View Post
    Churches will be in violation of federal law if they refuse. I can GUARANTEE to you there will be discrimination lawsuits against churches who refuse to marry gay couples. Hell, even private business have been sued for refusing to provide service to same-sex couples.

    I guess you didn't read => Growing Up With Two Moms: The Untold Children
    Churches refuse to wed couples of certain races, religions, and combinations of these above all the fricking time, and it is absolutely legal. Those laws don't apply to religious ceremonies (which is what happens when someone is married in a church).

    That is a personal opinion where someone is stupidly trying to apply his experience, feelings to all. It would be no different than someone saying that being raised with stepparents is wrong because they didn't like it or had a bad experience. It is a subjective opinion.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Very bad week for the GOP. Heads exploding all over the place. LOL
    actually just as the HELLER Ruling helped the Dems, these rulings helped the GOP
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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