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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    No "defeat" admitted.


    You were unable to support your claim that the ruling specifically allows incest marriage and could provide a citation.


    Must be a liberal mentality, make a claim, don't support and instead of admitting the claim was unsupported claim "victory".




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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Sure it is, because the basis for his argument is any two people.
    No, it isn't. It is specifically addressed for what they were discussing, two people of the same sex can be in a marriage in the same way as two people of the opposite sexes. There is no mention of incest. If they want marriage, they need to fight for it themselves. This ruling does not apply to them. It could become a part of a case that is brought up to the court, but not likely going to have more precedent than other cases, since this one was saying that there was no reason to keep two people of the same sex from getting married, it doesn't further any legitimate state interest at all. The Court would have to know what the state considers its state interests are in denying incestuous relationships the right to marry before they can simply strike down those bans.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, it isn't.

    The Court would have to know what the state considers its state interests are in denying incestuous relationships the right to marry before they can simply strike down those bans.
    If Kennedy wanted to exclude any two people who are related he would have done so.

    What state interests outweigh Kennedy's argument about a federal constitutional right that has to be applied to all states?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    If Kennedy wanted to exclude any two people who are related he would have done so.

    What state interests outweigh Kennedy's argument about a federal constitutional right that has to be applied to all states?
    As I've said before, that is not how SCOTUS decisions work. They do not apply to other cases, other issues that are not brought up to them. They may later be used in future decisions, but they don't automatically cover such issues. Nor should Justices have to specifically mention every situation where the decision doesn't apply just so some don't wrongfully believe it automatically does.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    There is something seriously wrong when we need a Constitutional amendment to prevent siblings from marrying. That is the road this court has set us on.
    What does two gay dudes getting married have to do with a brother and sister doing it?


    Prior to this, one was not legal, and the other was. Now both are.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They do not apply to other cases, other issues that are not brought up to them.
    But they specifically do. That is why the cases are referenced back to in new cases that have similar facts.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    But they specifically do. That is why the cases are referenced back to in new cases that have similar facts.
    No, they don't. Otherwise, same sex marriage would have been legal due to several earlier cases before this one, including one dealing with prisoners getting married, another a divorcee behind on child support, and another with a type of couple the public simply did not approve of getting married.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, they don't.
    But they do. That is the whole point of referencing the other cases.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    But they do. That is the whole point of referencing the other cases.
    No, no they don't. And you can continue to repeat your failed argument as much as you like, but it is still a failing argument. They have no obligation to mention potential future cases in any ruling they make. They can cover them if those laws are challenged, and actually address the issues with those cases then.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, no they don't.

    They have no obligation to mention potential future cases in any ruling they make.
    But they do.

    You did finally say something correct when you said they are not obligated to. Sadly, nobody argued they were. So you won that argument against literally nobody arguing against you.

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