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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You are the one who made the claim that it was based on the Soviet Union's constitution......
    Now support that ignorant ass claim.
    I don't think he will reply back.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You, nor I, know the future. You don't have any clue the actual repercussions of this decision, particularly on future Court decisions, especially with how many times the SCOTUS has changed its mind on things.
    Indeed, but not the problem. The public admission by the Chief administrator and head of the Judicial Branch that the court is unmoored from the constitution is the final straw. The difference between us thinking on occasion our government doesn't give two ****s what we think and the government announcing the fact that they don't publically. The cat is well out of the bag, our system is not what it purports to be, the constitution no longer matters. The fantasy that it did has been shattered.
    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Indeed, but not the problem. The public admission by the Chief administrator and head of the Judicial Branch that the court is unmoored from the constitution is the final straw. The difference between us thinking on occasion our government doesn't give two ****s what we think and the government announcing the fact that they don't publically. The cat is well out of the bag, our system is not what it purports to be, the constitution no longer matters. The fantasy that it did has been shattered.
    I think it is justice Roberts invoking the Lochner v New York decision and calling it a "discredited decision" that has got conservative legal scholars so angry at Roberts.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I'm talking about the U.S. Constitution, not the old Soviet Union's.
    So the quote I posted used something besides our Constitution?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Did why did Scalia invoke his own personal religious beliefs in his dissent?

    Is that not an "agenda" that has no god damned place in a constitutional discussion??????
    I think he wrote that in the context of the Soviet Union's Constitution, lol.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I think it is justice Roberts invoking the Lochner v New York decision and calling it a "discredited decision" that has got conservative legal scholars so angry at Roberts.
    I'm not angry with him for saying it at all. Again, it's one of those comfortable illusions we hold that the SCOTUS and our nation is bound to the US Constitution. Just as we hold the illusion that our money is backed by something concrete.

    Like if the head of the Treasury came out tomorrow with a statement saying, hey, the value we give money is something we sort of make up as we go along. If we said it would be worth nothing tomorrow, it would be worth nothing. Now, most of us know that already in our heart of hearts, but the illusion keeps the system going and us with it, so we keep the illusion.
    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    From page 2 of the decision
    ROBERTS, C. J., dissenting
    The majority’s decision is an act of will, not legal judgment.
    The right it announces has no basis in the Constitution
    or this Court’s precedent.
    The majority expressly
    disclaims judicial “caution” and omits even a pretense of
    humility, openly relying on its desire to remake society
    according to its own “new insight” into the “nature of
    injustice.”

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And this fun little gem......


    And then this fun little gem.....


    These are definitely the writings of someone who looks to the constitution..... rather than writing as a justice in the highest court, what amounts to a Debate Politics partisan rant.
    LOL! Shot right over your head!
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You are the one who made the claim that it was based on the Soviet Union's constitution......
    Now support that ignorant ass claim.
    LOL! Do you get it, or did that go over your head too? I guess so.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    ROBERTS, C. J., dissenting
    The majority’s decision is an act of will, not legal judgment.
    The right it announces has no basis in the Constitution
    or this Court’s precedent.
    The majority expressly
    disclaims judicial “caution” and omits even a pretense of
    humility, openly relying on its desire to remake society
    according to its own “new insight” into the “nature of
    injustice.”

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf
    okay.... so because he says it, it must be so....

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