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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Is it safe to say that you aren't making an attempt to understand and that you would rather bash Christians and force them to follow your beliefs?
    So, in the spirit of the post you responded to,


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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So, in the spirit of the post you responded to,

    I already posted supporting links. I'm not doing it again. Your lame attempt at reductio ad absurdum is noted.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Is it safe to say that you aren't making an attempt to understand and that you would rather bash Christians and force them to follow your beliefs?
    I am a practicing Christian. If anything, I am bashing the hypocritical ones that give my religion a black eye.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Did why did Scalia invoke his own personal religious beliefs in his dissent?

    Is that not an "agenda" that has no god damned place in a constitutional discussion??????
    You've got to be kidding. He is always looking to the Constitution for guidance. More than anyone on the Court.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Reagan was a moderate Republican. It was also almost 40 years ago.
    Reagan was the last Republican President that wasn't completely in the pocket of the religious right. He didn't take them seriously, he knew when to pretend to be on their side to get their support but I'm pretty sure he thought they were idiots.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And we are not talking about the u.s.s.r., we are talking about this ruling:

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf
    Oh, I know what ruling we are talking about, there just isn't anything in our Constitution that supports it.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    WTF??!?!?!?!?!?!

    Please, using language directly from the majority opinion, show where they based their decision on the old Soviet Union's constitution.....

    This is about the most ignorant assertion in this entire thread...
    Please, show me where it is based on our Constitution. What an ignorant post.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, I know what ruling we are talking about, there just isn't anything in our Constitution that supports it.
    From page 2 of the decision

    b) The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a mar- riage between two people of the same sex. Pp. 10–27.
    (1)The fundamental liberties protected by the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause extend to certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy, including intimate choic- es defining personal identity and beliefs. See, e.g., Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U. S. 438, 453; Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U. S. 479, 484–486. Courts must exercise reasoned judgment in identifying in- terests of the person so fundamental that the State must accord them its respect. History and tradition guide and discipline the inquiry but do not set its outer boundaries. When new insight reveals dis- cord between the Constitution’s central protections and a received le- gal stricture, a claim to liberty must be addressed.
    Applying these tenets, the Court has long held the right to marry is protected by the Constitution. For example, Loving v. Virginia, 388 U. S. 1, 12, invalidated bans on interracial unions, and Turner v. Safley, 482 U. S. 78, 95, held that prisoners could not be denied the right to marry.
    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You've got to be kidding. He is always looking to the Constitution for guidance. More than anyone on the Court.
    Quote Originally Posted by Antonin Scalia's Dissent
    The substance of today’s decree is not of immense personal importance to me. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. Until the courts put a stop to it, public debate over same-sex marriage displayed American democracy at its best.
    And this fun little gem......
    Quote Originally Posted by Antonin Scalia's Dissent
    The nature of marriage is that, through its enduring bond, two persons together can find other freedoms, such as expression, intimacy, and spirituality,'" he quoted from the majority opinion before adding, "Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie
    And then this fun little gem.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Antonin Scalia's Dissent
    The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: 'The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,' I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.
    These are definitely the writings of someone who looks to the constitution..... rather than writing as a justice in the highest court, what amounts to a Debate Politics partisan rant.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Please, show me where it is based on our Constitution. What an ignorant post.
    You are the one who made the claim that it was based on the Soviet Union's constitution......
    Now support that ignorant ass claim.

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