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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    They would be the Christians who don't want to participate in abortions.
    ??? Not sure what that has to do with this except for this, if this is what you were thinking: if you dont want to participate in gay marriage, dont marry someone of the same sex. If you dont want to participate in abortion, dont have one.

    See? It's all about choice and neither one affects you *at all.*
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Because they will want to keep their tax-exempt status.
    No, I know a couple of such churches and they welcome everyone, including gay couples. And marry them. Not just to keep from lawsuits or their tax status. So I'm sure there are plenty more. On another forum, there's a gay minister of a protestant parish...in Iowa.

    There are many Christian churches in the US that accept gays.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    The premise of your request isn't valid:

    Mathew 5, 17
    "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose."

    So, the Old Testament is still valid.

    What can and can't be done in marriage is a long explanation. So I'll let this website do it. It is well done and has plenty of references:

    What Does the Bible Say About Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage?

    That should establish that marriage, per the bible, is only allowed between a man and a woman and that anything else is against God's law. The question then becomes, is helping someone to violate God's law a sin? Clearly the answer is yes.



    Does a sin damn you for eternity? Well, yes and no. The goal of life is to avoid sin and apologize when you make a mistake. The less obvious answer is if you intentionally sin and then apologize. Many say you are still ok. Many say there is no repentance.

    Either way, the government has no right to put a person's soul in jeopardy just because they participate in commerce. That is a pure violation of the first amendment.
    Jesus said there is absolutely repentance if you ask. Like I said...New Testament. For ANY sin.

    But it's sad that you think the govt can make you fear God. God is a God of love and peace and compassion and nothing you write indicates that you recognize that, only vengeance and hate.

    I guess all the bakers and photographers, etc, that have been serving adulterers and fornicators all these years have gone to Hell, or are going to? Ruh oh!
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Because they are lazy and would rather enforce what they want God's word to be than what is God's word.
    So like I said then, they are just selectively using sin as an excuse against gays, rather than actually objecting because of religious belief.

    Thanks, that's what I said.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    By default, it's an uphill battle for Republicans. When you start off with NY and California in your pocket, almost automatically, you are in pretty good shape. That's why the Democrats are trying to flood Texas with illegals and don't want any voter ID at all. They don't really care much about the illegals in other States, they know if they can get enough votes to get Texas, it would be impossible for a Republican to win.

    On the other hand, if the Republicans can win California or NY, ala Reagan, they have an easy win. But hey, why follow that strategy? They're going to throw up someone like Jeb Bush and lose again.
    First off...there is very little chance that a Republican would win California (in the near foreseeable future). If they ever ARE going to win California it would have to be with a moderate. Someone the likes of Cruz or Walker would never stand a chance.

    Second...I don't know where you get the idea that Democrats are trying to flood Texas with illegals. First of all, illegals can't vote and vote ID doesn't change that at all. I support voter ID as long as there are procedures in place to allow for no-charge ID's and it is combined with motor-voter registration (something that Republicans oppose because they want to limit the pool of voters not expand it). The reason why Texas is trending purple is more due to changing demographics and one of the "downsides" to Texas luring companies away from other states with their massive corporate welfare handouts. They are bringing Democratic voters into the state. The reality is that once Texas becomes a swing state or turns blue, there is zero chance that the Republicans will get the whitehouse.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, I know a couple of such churches and they welcome everyone, including gay couples. And marry them. Not just to keep from lawsuits or their tax status. So I'm sure there are plenty more. On another forum, there's a gay minister of a protestant parish...in Iowa.

    There are many Christian churches in the US that accept gays.
    The first openly gay Episcopalian Bishop was here in NH. His name is Gene Robinson. It was big news 12 years or so ago when he was tapped by the church and elected as Bishop. He was married to a woman in his early years but divorced her in the 1980s, and came out as gay then. It didn't hurt his career by any means.

    He married his partner in the mid-2000s when NH legalized SSM but I heard they were getting divorced.

    Yup, some churches are very welcoming to gay people.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, you won in the immediate on the issue but lost like the rest of us, long term, on the method. It matters as much how you get there as where you get to.
    You, nor I, know the future. You don't have any clue the actual repercussions of this decision, particularly on future Court decisions, especially with how many times the SCOTUS has changed its mind on things.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Whoa, where did spite come from? It's merely an academic discussion on whether clergy acting as an agent of the state in a legal marriage contract could discriminate, not unlike the discussion on whether a city clerk could refuse to issue a marriage licence.
    THe spite comes from the selective choice to not serve gay 'sinners' but not objecting to serve the other sinners applying for marriage licenses...the adulterers, the fornicators, the convicted murderers, the multiple divorcees.....

    It's not about 'sin' or religious belief. It's about being mad that gays can now marry and using your religion as a tool against them. Spite. God frowns on that btw.
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