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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    And they probably will, soon to be followed by pulling out of hospitals.
    what kind of Christians would those be? Certainly not actual ones's following the teachings of Jesus, those of love, compassion, helping your fellow man, etc.
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    They did base it on Constitutional law:


    All they did was acknowledge the more human side of it when some gays made their petition for marriage and stated such reasons.

    You are trying to wiggle out of admitting that they made the *right* decision based on the Constitution. But their stated reasons support just that.
    no they didnt. All their rhetoric was built on feelings and emotions. They 'justified' it...but there was zero question as to the direction Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsberg, and Kennedy were voting. It had nothing to do with the Constitution.

    All good. Its not like this stuff isnt all expected.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    So they can be free to discriminate who they "marry" based upon religious reasons. If it's not a legal marriage the state has no horse in the race because it would only be a religious ceremony.
    They can do that now if they choose.

    What you are talking about is spite...and that's not a very Godly thing.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    no they didnt. All their rhetoric was built on feelings and emotions. They 'justified' it...but there was zero question as to the direction Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsberg, and Kennedy were voting. It had nothing to do with the Constitution.

    All good. Its not like this stuff isnt all expected.
    It was expected, yes. But that is your personal opinion that they manipulated the law based on emotion. Their (legal) justifications in the quote were quite clear and you just assuming they were based on emotion is pure speculation based on what 'you believe.'
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    They aren't performing them to make money; at most you should only be paying the pastor/rabbi/priest for his time.

    They will still have ceremonies, but they won't sign the state's paper. They will send folks somewhere to get it signed.
    Lots of Protestant churches have been performing gay marriages for more than a decade. Do you think they'll stop now? Why?

    (I cant speak for other faiths tho).
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It doesn't have to be that way. Salvation is free. You only need to take it.

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God"
    Eph 2:8
    It's a choice He gives us, right? He asks us to follow His Word.

    So how arrogant are you trying to force it on people who didnt choose to believe? God opens a door for us but he doesnt shove us thru. YOU, arrogantly, would use force, by law, to "shove people" thru that door to behave as you want. Yeah...He's not gonna like that when you arrive at His Gates.
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    They can do that now if they choose.

    What you are talking about is spite...and that's not a very Godly thing.
    Whoa, where did spite come from? It's merely an academic discussion on whether clergy acting as an agent of the state in a legal marriage contract could discriminate, not unlike the discussion on whether a city clerk could refuse to issue a marriage licence.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    what kind of Christians would those be? Certainly not actual ones's following the teachings of Jesus, those of love, compassion, helping your fellow man, etc.
    They would be the Christians who don't want to participate in abortions.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Lots of Protestant churches have been performing gay marriages for more than a decade. Do you think they'll stop now? Why?

    (I cant speak for other faiths tho).
    Because they will want to keep their tax-exempt status.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    They have devalued marriage
    You know who else devalued marriage? Adulterers, men and women *cough* Newt and Rush *cough* on their third and fourth marriages, etc.

    I have to give the heterosexuals a lot of credit. They've done their part to devalue marriage long before the gays came along. The gays are going to have to work like hell getting gay married all over the place to even come close to devaluing marriage by embracing marriage if they want to match the damage done by straight folks!

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