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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Questions that you couldn't answer and have danced and dodged around for the past several pages. Get it a break dude.....you are out of your league when you take to this site and attempt to engage in conversations that you know nothing about.

    Bottom line: Bigotry lost and America won.....this is the final nail in the coffin of the right-wing social agenda and you guys know it. The rest is just sour grapes and whining. Face it you lost.
    Hah! More hilarity.

    And bottom line: We The People lost, and it has ****-all to do with homosexual marriage. We lost because our highest court finally came out with the operating truth - we are NOT a constitutional system. We didn't lose because of this one decision, it just became public knowledge with this decision.

    That you fail to recognize that loss, because you got something out of it you so desired, speaks volumes.
    Roberts wrote: "If you are among the many Americans -- of whatever sexual orientation -- who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. ... But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    More like Grant, Truman, Carter, Obama.
    Seriously, you can't be that devoid of objectivity to recognize it. You have witnessed historical things in the last decade. I'm not comparing Obama to Lincoln, but I sometimes think about all the hatred that was thrown Lincoln's way during his day. Talk about not seeing the history that was in the making right before their eyes. And they had the privilege of seeing it firsthand. But they were blinded by their issues.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    This too...

    "They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a ‘fundamental right’ overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds—minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly—could not."
    Thats a lovely attempt at "Appeal to Authority", but since this issue never came before the court... it wasn't considered.

    The court has enough cases to handle on a regular basis without coming up with its own decisions without a case being presented by the people. Its not their job to come up with **** without a case before it.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Is this facetious?
    No. Why.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykes View Post
    No. Why.
    Don't worry, your mom is correct. It first started being brought up in the 70s, though most mainstream people would not have heard of it. It took off in the 80s, which would end up with DOMA being passed in 1996 in response to the growing discussion of the issue.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Hah! More hilarity.

    And bottom line: We The People lost, and it has ****-all to do with homosexual marriage. We lost because our highest court finally came out with the operating truth - we are NOT a constitutional system. We didn't lose because of this one decision, it just became public knowledge with this decision.

    That you fail to recognize that loss, because you got something out of it you so desired, speaks volumes.
    Same sex marriage supporters are part of "we the people", and we did not lose at all.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not at all. Legal marriage in the US involves a legal contract, as well as forms a legal kinship. You cannot sign a contract with an inanimate object or with an animal, or even with a minor.
    Why not? Inanimate objects have rights just like you and I. If they don't it would simply take a quick court case to attribute rights to say... a telephone pole.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You cannot form a legal kinship of any kind with an inanimate object or an animal.
    Apparenlty many people as I have already shown two, have done just that. How do you explain Eija's marriage to the Berlin wall then?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    None of those things can be claimed, ever on your taxes as a dependent, many legal relatives can, especially your closest legal relative, your spouse.
    Perhaps tax dependency isn't a requirement or benefit for these people.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Why not? Inanimate objects have rights just like you and I. If they don't it would simply take a quick court case to attribute rights to say... a telephone pole.

    Apparenlty many people as I have already shown two, have done just that. How do you explain Eija's marriage to the Berlin wall then?

    Perhaps tax dependency isn't a requirement or benefit for these people.
    No, inanimate objects do not have rights. If you disagree, please show me a TV with a right, or a door knob. Hell, just show me a cat with the same rights a human has.

    Those are not legally recognized marriages. They are nothing more than personal marriages. Are you unaware of the difference? This concept isn't that hard. If you disagree, show me her legal marriage certificate to the Berlin Wall.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, inanimate objects do not have rights. If you disagree, please show me a TV with a right, or a door knob. Hell, just show me a cat with the same rights a human has.

    Those are not legally recognized marriages. They are nothing more than personal marriages. Are you unaware of the difference? This concept isn't that hard. If you disagree, show me her legal marriage certificate to the Berlin Wall.
    I am not married to the Berlin wall so there would be no reasonable expectation I would have access to a marriage certificate from 1979. That's quite an absurd demand. I have no idea if these are legally recognized or not but it's still a marriage is it not? My entire point is not to support the marriage of people to inanimate objects... my point in this discussion is to use an otherwise ludicrous premise to ridicule what is surely to be the next step in human social evolution which is - not just support for gay marriage but for marriage - to anything or to anyone, be that one other person or object (monogamy) or to many (polygamy). Because social constructs when expanded do not stop expanding. I don't expect this to happen overnight but given time...
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I am not married to the Berlin wall so there would be no reasonable expectation I would have access to a marriage certificate from 1979. That's quite an absurd demand. I have no idea if these are legally recognized or not but it's still a marriage is it not? My entire point is not to support the marriage of people to inanimate objects... my point in this discussion is to use an otherwise ludicrous premise to ridicule what is surely to be the next step in human social evolution which is - not just support for gay marriage but for marriage - to anything or to anyone, be that one other person or object (monogamy) or to many (polygamy). Because social constructs when expanded do not stop expanding. I don't expect this to happen overnight but given time...
    They are not legally recognized, anywhere. There is no question about that. There are no laws that cover these marriages. In fact, if that marriage was legally recognized, she could sue for the destruction of the Berlin Wall. Afterall, spouses are able to receive justice (damages/compensation) when someone harms or kills their spouse.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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