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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    So Dude, do you see anything at all being proposed, explored, or even positively discussed as a natural next step given the SC reasoning in their marriage decision?
    You don't have to agree with it, but has any occured to you?
    No. I don't accept Scalia and Roberts slippery slope analogies. The majority opinion is completely consistent with stare decisis and consistent with our Constitutional guarantees.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not really. Advanced the culture I think would be more accurate.
    That's pretty subjective and in some cases pretty hard to defend.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. I don't accept Scalia and Roberts slippery slope analogies. The majority opinion is completely consistent with stare decisis and consistent with our Constitutional guarantees.
    Given the USSC ruling seems to have been based on "dignity" being a Constitutional right, what's to prevent the slippery slope?
    Better never than late.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That's pretty subjective really.
    Isn't it all subjective? I see all of those decisions as not fundamentally "changing" our culture....because America has always strived to be a society of Freedom and Justice for ALL. Sometimes we have been slow to get there, but eventually we do. I guess if you support the traditional "Justice for white male property owners" only...then you could argue that all of these changes "fundamentally changed the culture of America"....but not if you adhere to the principles upon which this great country was founded.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    "Love wins". The best part of love winning is "nanny nanny boo boo!".

    Such contradiction in 2 short sentences. Odd.
    In my first few seconds of reading Obergefell, I saw the majority talking about a "dynamic," and I knew the rest would be junk. Anthony Kennedy and his four co-conspirators were clever to dress this lawless piece of garbage up as a paean to love--they should have been wearing tie-dye robes and sandals, with flowers in their hair. Some of us, though, had thought the Supreme Court's job was not to spread the love of all things homosexual, but rather to determine what this or that part of the Constitution meant, in a particular case. Some of us had thought it still took that job seriously.

    Justice Scalia's thoroughly justified mockery of the decision's repeated use of noble-sounding but utterly meaningless gobbledygook is just one of the attacks in the dissenting opinions that hit their target dead center. Like Roe, another substantive due process hot mess, Obergefell will be remembered as an embarrassing performance that does not even come close to meeting the standards expected of a Supreme Court decision. It appeals to dim bulbs who can't reason.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Given the USSC ruling seems to have been based on "dignity" being a Constitutional right, what's to prevent the slippery slope?
    That's an oversimplification of the holding, so its a little difficult to respond. What exactly are you afraid of?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Ok. How does that change anything?
    Putting off marriage until they are mature enough (or at least they believe so) and/or financially/educationally secure enough to handle marriage best is better for society and marriages. It means that more people are actually thinking about their marriage in a responsible way rather than "I want to have sex, I should get married" or "I got pregnant, I need to get married" or "I love him/her so much, we should get married (wonder what my last name will be)".
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    In my first few seconds of reading Obergefell, I saw the majority talking about a "dynamic," and I knew the rest would be junk. Anthony Kennedy and his four co-conspirators were clever to dress this lawless piece of garbage up as a paean to love--they should have been wearing tie-dye robes and sandals, with flowers in their hair. Some of us, though, had thought the Supreme Court's job was not to spread the love of all things homosexual, but rather to determine what this or that part of the Constitution meant, in a particular case. Some of us had thought it still took that job seriously.

    Justice Scalia's thoroughly justified mockery of the decision's repeated use of noble-sounding but utterly meaningless gobbledygook is just one of the attacks in the dissenting opinions that hit their target dead center. Like Roe, another substantive due process hot mess, Obergefell will be remembered as an embarrassing performance that does not even come close to meeting the standards expected of a Supreme Court decision. It appeals to dim bulbs who can't reason.

    If you think that Scalia's vitriolic dissent was becoming of Supreme Court Justice and was founded in logic....then I think it speaks clearly as to what constitutes a "dim bulb".

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Given the USSC ruling seems to have been based on "dignity" being a Constitutional right, what's to prevent the slippery slope?
    Greetings, bubba.

    Dignity is earned by your actions, not given by a piece of paper. It may take a while for that to sink in...

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's an oversimplification
    of the holding, so its a little difficult to respond.
    What exactly are you afraid of?
    It's not an oversimplification.

    I take it you've not thought beyond this ruling and what it could portend, your efforts to divert from the question notwithstanding.
    Better never than late.

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