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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First cousins should be allowed to marry, and I see that as being the next marriage cases to go up, (at least with a likelihood of winning to remove such restrictions).
    If the guarantee of equal protection applies as broadly as the proponents of the homosexual agenda have never tired of claiming, why would a state not violate it by arbitrarily drawing the line at first cousins? Consanguinity restrictions were included in marriage laws because people realized the incidence of birth defects in offspring increased the more closely the parents were related by blood. That rationale obviously disappears where the partners are the same sex.

    I don't see what legitimate government purpose will be served any longer either by those restrictions or by state laws against adult incest outside marriage, where the partners are of the same sex. And if one or both were permanently sterile, why wouldn't it be an arbitrary injustice to deny a brother and sister the same right to marry each other? As Chief Justice Roberts noted, laws against plural marriage very well may not survive either.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I think the left supports the decision because they're under the impression that all Conservatives oppose Gay marriage.

    I don't really care one way or the other.

    We have much more important issues to deal with.
    No, the left is over-the-moon ecstatic about it because we know it is fair, just, and long overdue.

    The meltdown on the right is just icing on the gay cake someone was forced to bake.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Thats funny....liberals caused state sanctioning of marriage to be expanded, but somehow this was done while not caring about the institution.
    Interesting, isn't it?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well.....you are claiming that some phantom organized group of people is seeking to change the social construct/culture of America.....but it isn't the gays. I'm simply asking you, who in your mind is this phantom organized group that is seeking to change American culture...and what exactly is their agenda that you are concerned about.
    LOL

    Really? That is your question? Phantom group? So you don't think there is a liberal/progressive agenda that transcends the topic of the OP?

    That's too funny.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First of all, it isn't just "liberals/progressives" fighting for same sex couples to be able to marry. Second, it isn't just "liberals/progressives" who don't care about marriage as an institution. In fact, the most common complaint about marriage I hear comes from libertarians, not liberals. Most people aren't completely shunning marriage, but rather simply putting it off.
    Ok. How does that change anything?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, you really haven't accurately portrayed the arguments at all, or the people who support any of those things you mentioned, not as a whole at least. You have portrayed your perception of the situation, which is highly skewed and exaggerated.

    Either you are going to actually look at things rationally and accept that both sides do what you say, but neither to the level you are portraying it to be, or you weren't going to be a real ally in the first place, just someone looking for an excuse to be against something.
    I have accurately portrayed the arguments. You need to look at the situation rationally, rather than in the denial you appear to be satisfied with.

    People simply voicing an opinion, or exercising their rights, have been subject to ridicule and professional destruction. Consider the founder and former CEO of Mozilla. He made a donation to a cause he believed in, and was professionally destroyed for doing so. There are 1,000's of examples of this.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    Really? That is your question? Phantom group? So you don't think there is a liberal/progressive agenda that transcends the topic of the OP?

    That's too funny.

    LOL.....THAT is what you are talking about? Okie Dokie........No....I don't think there is a liberal/progressive agenda to change the social construct/culture of America. I do think there is a liberal/progressive agenda to maintain our culture against a push by the radical right-wing to infiltrate our society with their perverted versions of "Christianity". They aren't content to practice freely in their churches/homes.....they want to use their religion to write their own rules....and that is something that America....(not just liberals) is not going to stand for.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....THAT is what you are talking about? Okie Dokie........No....I don't think there is a liberal/progressive agenda to change the social construct/culture of America. I do think there is a liberal/progressive agenda to maintain our culture against a push by the radical right-wing to infiltrate our society with their perverted versions of "Christianity". They aren't content to practice freely in their churches/homes.....they want to use their religion to write their own rules....and that is something that America....(not just liberals) is not going to stand for.
    LOL

    So all these societal changes aren't changes? Man, denial is alive and well in the liberal/progressive world. Explains much.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL

    So all these societal changes aren't changes? Man, denial is alive and well in the liberal/progressive world. Explains much.
    Honestly I don't see how marriage equality changes the culture of America at all. Did inter-racial marriage change the culture of America? Not really.....I guess if you wanna expand on your point....you could argue that the civil rights movement of the 50's-60's "changed" the culture of America as did giving women the right to vote, the Emancipation proclamation. I guess they all "changed" the culture of America in one perspective....or they furthered the culture of America in another perspective. In your mind....should the culture of America remain static?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Then perhaps you should consider why it is exactly that you feel that churches would be forced to perform same sex marriages in the US, since that is not in any way a logical position to have, considering the huge amount of opposition to it and the protection against it written into our Constitution. While it is possible, the probability of it happening, especially in the lifetime of anyone living today, including those still in utero, is extremely small, so only paranoia would lead someone to think it is something likely to happen based on this decision, especially just because of this decision.
    If you have something to say, which I suspect you think you do, please attempt to read and comprehend my post before commenting, and please try to make a point that makes sense and doesn't require me to waste 30 seconds reading through babble, as I just did.
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