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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    like i said it aint gonna happen, "churches" are protected and its impossible unless the constitutions manically changes. You statement is conspiracy theory at best and thats the only way honest, educated and rational people will ever view it. To even fathom it will actually happen is nonsense. Churches discriminate everyday for any reason they want and theres nothing to change that.
    Perhaps you hadn't heard about attempts by the Obama administration to force Catholic institutions to fund health insurance packages that included free access to contraceptives. Perhaps you haven't heard about Human Rights Commissions ruling against religious people who wish not to have their businesses used in connections with same sex marriages. Perhaps you haven't heard some opine that if churches refuse to perform same sex marriages then the government should refuse to recognize all of that church's marriages.

    America, at this point in time, is fully engaged in chipping away at the extent to which religious freedoms are enjoyed in the public square. It is not the least bit a "conspiracy theory" to believe that such chipping will continue to occur and courts may, if they continue to legislate social policy, find a time when they'll cross the line into individual rights superceding religious rights.

    I'm not the slightest bit religious, so my view should be taken solely as a reflection on jurisprudence these days.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    and they are fine with it because they got what they wanted. if the conservative justices were as selfish and political it wouldn't have happened. and notice not a single liberal on this site has thanked or given respect to those conservatives that did vote for it. they could give a crap. tomorrow they will all go back to being evil enemies, even though it is the liberal justices who are the politically motivated scumbags in this case.
    What are you even talking about? The 4 conservatives on the court voted against it.....should we give thanks for their vote? The deciding vote was Kennedy who although is conservative on some issues, it much more moderate on others and has been the deciding vote on many key issues. We as a nation are forever indebted to Kennedy who has the wisdom and foresight to understand the Constitution and its guarantees.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So? Again, why is it that everyone focuses on the benefits?

    Well if you have to ask that question you don't get it.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    and they are fine with it because they got what they wanted. if the conservative justices were as selfish and political it wouldn't have happened. and notice not a single liberal on this site has thanked or given respect to those conservatives that did vote for it. they could give a crap. tomorrow they will all go back to being evil enemies, even though it is the liberal justices who are the politically motivated scumbags in this case.
    I wouldn't go that far, but I do appreciate the sentiment.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Perhaps you hadn't heard about attempts by the Obama administration to force Catholic institutions to fund health insurance packages that included free access to contraceptives. Perhaps you haven't heard about Human Rights Commissions ruling against religious people who wish not to have their businesses used in connections with same sex marriages. Perhaps you haven't heard some opine that if churches refuse to perform same sex marriages then the government should refuse to recognize all of that church's marriages.

    America, at this point in time, is fully engaged in chipping away at the extent to which religious freedoms are enjoyed in the public square. It is not the least bit a "conspiracy theory" to believe that such chipping will continue to occur and courts may, if they continue to legislate social policy, find a time when they'll cross the line into individual rights superceding religious rights.

    I'm not the slightest bit religious, so my view should be taken solely as a reflection on jurisprudence these days.

    Chipping away at religious freedoms in the public square? Religious Freedom was NEVER intended as a way for people to get around the laws of the country. Religious Freedom is about the individual freedom to practice whatever religion you want...but don't kid yourself...it was never intended to give people a license to use religion as a shield to practice bigotry.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What are you even talking about? The 4 conservatives on the court voted against it.....should we give thanks for their vote? The deciding vote was Kennedy who although is conservative on some issues, it much more moderate on others and has been the deciding vote on many key issues. We as a nation are forever indebted to Kennedy who has the wisdom and foresight to understand the Constitution and its guarantees.
    You know what The ironic thing is?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Ok. So if I open a flower shop and refuse to participate in a gay wedding, I won't be prosecuted? I'm glad that is settled law then.
    Freedom of religion does not give you a shield to write your own rules....you have to follow the laws. You are still absolutely free to practice your religion, attend your church, pray anywhere and anytime you want to....it even protects your right to be a bigot...it just does not protect your right to practice that bigotry against others. Its actually pretty simple.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You know what The ironic thing is?

    Anthony Kennedy was nominated to the Supreme Court by Ronald Reagan.
    (Unless you are Donald Trump....who thinks Bush appointed him....LOL)

    It is ironic....but sometimes, like Souter....they turn out ok.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Chipping away at religious freedoms in the public square? Religious Freedom was NEVER intended as a way for people to get around the laws of the country. Religious Freedom is about the individual freedom to practice whatever religion you want...but don't kid yourself...it was never intended to give people a license to use religion as a shield to practice bigotry.
    Perhaps you should address your comments to Agent J since he's the one who insists it's impossible that people like you will continue to chip away. You're a prime example of what I was referring to. Thanks
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn;10647619761.)
    Perhaps you haven't heard some opine that if churches refuse to perform same sex marriages then the government should refuse to recognize all of that church's marriages.
    2.)America, at this point in time, is fully engaged in chipping away at the extent to which religious freedoms are enjoyed in the public square. It is not the least bit a "conspiracy theory" to believe that such chipping will continue to occur and courts may, if they continue to legislate social policy, find a time when they'll cross the line into individual rights superceding religious rights.
    3.)I'm not the slightest bit religious, so my view should be taken solely as a reflection on jurisprudence these days.
    sticking with the actual topic and not strawmen and hyperbole

    1.) constitution excists so no worries, churches will not be forced
    2.) actually since i live here and i myself am a chrisitina and therehave been ZERO infringements on my religious rights it is a conspiracy theory. . .this equal rights victory has ZERO impact on religious rights and freedoms
    3.) religious or not i just take it for what it is. illogical, unsupportable and a fantasy conspiracy theory.
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