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Thread: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So then the argument that gay marriage would effect no one is a lie since it affects business in commerce and in benefit decisions. It should be noted that each transaction has no connection to each other and thus there is no reason to force employers to treat them equally.
    Many things affect businesses. But same sex marriage being legal has no more effect on businesses than any other types of marriages being legal.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You didn't ask any question.
    I, too, have a medication which impairs reading comprehension.

    Here is that post again....


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why should a company have to recegnise any relationship? What contract does your spouse sign with your employer which then obligates the employer? What service does your non-employee spouce provide to the buisness which then entitles your spouse to compinsation?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, those companies would be picking and choosing which couples they wanted to recognize as married, leaving others to fend for themselves, treating them unfairly just because they felt it was okay to do so. Legal marriage provides a set standard that they must follow. If they offer benefits to married people, then it must be to all married people, not just those they like or agree with.

    There are many reasons for the marriage licenses to exist. That is just one of them.
    And why should employers be held to the same standard as government? When you buy things from two different stores is there a connection between the transactions? When I hire two people is there any connection between those individual hirings? If not, why does what I offer person A have to be the same as person B?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Many things affect businesses. But same sex marriage being legal has no more effect on businesses than any other types of marriages being legal.
    Yes, and yet when your side said repeatedly over the years that gay marriage would affect no one you were lying.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So then the argument that gay marriage would effect no one is a lie since it affects business in commerce and in benefit decisions. It should be noted that each transaction has no connection to each other and thus there is no reason to force employers to treat them equally.
    No reason? It is bad for business to discriminate. That seems like a pretty good reason.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I, too, have a medication which impairs reading comprehension.

    Here is that post again....
    I apologize. I looked at the wrong response to you.

    I did give my answer though. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean it doesn't answer what I feel should be answered. With a UHC, no company would be forced to offer any type of insurance to their employees or their spouses. But they currently do have to do so for certain employees because society sees this as beneficial to society as a whole. (I don't necessarily agree with this.) But when they do offer such things to one employee, for a given position, it should be offered the same to all for that position.

    The rest of the questions are pointless given that answer.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I, too, have a medication which impairs reading comprehension.

    Here is that post again....
    Because apparently having a contract with the government puts obligations on parties besides the government. You know, because that is totally how contracts work.

    Government: Oh well, he has a contract with me, so you have to do stuff for him.
    Business:But I didn't sign anything.
    Government: Yeah, but we are the government and decree you have to do stuff anyway.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, and yet when your side said repeatedly over the years that gay marriage would affect no one you were lying.
    How about you argue from what I've said, including context, rather than "my side". I'll take responsibility for what I said, not what others have said who you believe speak for me. If I've mispoken, then I will clarify, as I have.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And why should employers be held to the same standard as government? When you buy things from two different stores is there a connection between the transactions? When I hire two people is there any connection between those individual hirings? If not, why does what I offer person A have to be the same as person B?
    Because you live in a society that views fairness in transactions, business relations, and employment as important.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    No reason? It is bad for business to discriminate. That seems like a pretty good reason.
    Why should businesses have to pay men and women the same, or in this case offer everyone the same benefits? Well, because apparently it's unfair if they don't, ignoring that there is literally no other reason to do it. It's not like the employer will lose business because they don't and it's not like there is any connection between hirings, but well, it's unfair, so yeah. It's entertaining how it's fair to force yourself on people though.

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