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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    This is a strong ruling on a strong case. Almost certainly, it is an historical precedent that helps expand equal protection to all persons.

    The full ruling can be found at: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...4-556_3204.pdf

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    What a steaming crock of bull****.

    The Constitution says nothing about this topic.
    Didn't say anything about the Marriage License either, yet here we are.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Let's see if you're still so arrogant about it in 2016. It's gonna be a rout.
    Unless you have support (which you don't) for an Amendment to the Constitution concerning this issue, its over. There is no way to get another case up through the SCOTUS unless the next POTUS simply refuses to obey the law and allow states to refuse to obey this law over a year after it has been recognized in those states. Pretty sure that isn't likely to happen. The POTUS alone, nor Congress can overturn a SCOTUS decision on this. The most they could do would be something close to "jury nullification", but even then it would take some support elsewhere, which isn't really there and is even less likely to be there in a year and a half.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Ok. So if I open a flower shop and refuse to participate in a gay wedding, I won't be prosecuted? I'm glad that is settled law then.
    I don't give a **** if I am prosecuted, I'm not acquiescing to some robed buffoon.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrT View Post
    I think conservatives are going to try and downplay their opposition to same sex marriage or to cover themselves by cloaking the argument in a state's rights style of argument.
    Why? Not all Republicans are against Gay marriage and many don't care if same sexes want to live life with each other.

    The good news with this is.....is now all are recognized. Which means that the last remaining group of special people can't run around and think they are very special anymore.

    Means they will now have to actually focus on what is happening with the country. Rather than themselves. Its a win win!

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    "The stories of the people asking for the right to marry reveal that they seek not to denigrate marriage but rather to live their lives, or honor their spouses' memory, joined by its bond." Justice Kennedy

    As expected...they did not rule based on Constitution or law. They ruled on emotion and personal opinion.

    C'est la vie. The upside is...people can get on with their merry lives. There will still be many court battles on implementation, but this issue looks settled.

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It soils the institution of marriage but, more importantly, it solidifies the idea that we're not a democracy....we're lorded over by 5 unelected and robed buffoons who call all the shots.

    It's ridiculous and infuriating that Justice Kennedy, by himself, can lord over 350 million people without receiving a single vote
    How exactly does my marriage "soil" the institution of marriage?

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Unless you have support (which you don't) for an Amendment to the Constitution concerning this issue, its over. There is no way to get another case up through the SCOTUS unless the next POTUS simply refuses to obey the law and allow states to refuse to obey this law over a year after it has been recognized in those states. Pretty sure that isn't likely to happen. The POTUS alone, nor Congress can overturn a SCOTUS decision on this. The most they could do would be something close to "jury nullification", but even then it would take some support elsewhere, which isn't really there and is even less likely to be there in a year and a half.
    What I meant was the right will come to the polls in droves, Hillary will be routed

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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's not the same. this decision is firmly supported by the fourteenth amendment.
    Steaming. Crock. Of. ****.

    We're going to bend over backwards for "author's intent" when it comes to the sloppy writing in Obamacare, effectively rewriting the bill they voted yes on for them, but we're going to pretend that the people writing and voting for the 14th Amendment not only considered marriage a "right" but that a marriage that would be totally alien to them is also a "right?"

    That's ****ing absurd. This entire line of reasoning is a joke and has been since the first time some liar ever tried it.


    you're actually arguing equivalency between allowing black people to be enslaved and allowing gay marriage to be recognized by the state
    Absolutely not.

    The equivalency is in pretending the Constitution, a plain English document, says something it does not. In this, these decisions are equal and they are to be condemned.

    The nation is a federal republic of states, and those individual states are supposed to have broad leeway to set their own internal policy in any matter in which the Constitution is silent. You're dead set on the 14th and trying to hallucinate new meanings its authors would have never written and couldn't have conceived of while ignoring the final item in our Bill of Rights.

    Dred Scott did exactly what Roe or this does - run roughshod over the rule of law.

    I actually think marriage should not be a word the state ever uses and licenses should be a thing of the past. I don't care if gays want to have a joint property contract - that's all fine and dandy - I do care about the integrity of our Constitution.
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    re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    There something the Chief justice said that is curious considering yesterday's ruling.

    He said the Court was not a Legislature ?

    Does that depend on your mood or the day or the cycles of the moon ? Because you sure were the legislature yesterday.

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