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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    please read the dissent.

    "The majority graciously suggests that religious believers may continue to 'advocate' and 'teach' their views of marriage," writes Roberts. "The First Amendment guarantees, however, the freedom to 'exercise' religion. Ominously, that is not a word the majority uses."

    funny how that is. ol yes there will be lawsuits and millions of dollars spent to reinforce the 1st amendment that already exists.
    even the prosecutor for the government defending the case said that there would be issues.

    church and other religious organizations can be sued for discrimination and public accommodation clauses.
    on top of that under hate speech laws by saying marriage is between a man and a women they could easily lose their tax exempt status.

    the fight is not over and the militant activist won't stop.
    So? Preaching hate from the pulpit needs to be addressed and their tax status reviewed. Maybe churches should quit preaching bad about other people. They can learn how to hate the sin but love the sinner.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well with all due respect, you don't read people too good
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    Some people (Not talking about any one person in particular). have their heads shoved so far up their butts that they can't see the sun rise.

    But they want to tell the whole world what they see and they want us to adopt their view of the world.

    Not going to happen.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Well, ACA subsidies were upheld and gay marriage legalized. So I expected the worse this morning, but the sun still came up, the world hasn't ended, and later I have to clean out the freakin garage(wife's orders). In-spite of all the doom and gloom from the mouths of the GOP, conservatives and Scalia not a damn thing has changed. lol.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no it isn't you can't officially be married without someone signing the license whether it is a justice of the peace or a clergy member.
    It is still separate from the ceremony. (I meant "separate from the actual wedding".) The clergy can still give you an entire wedding without ever signing any marriage license for/with you.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And again, how very accepting of you. Why do you or the law get to decide what works for someone else in their personal life? Rights that are equal and protected aren't determined by your opinion of their validity at any given moment in time. This is why government should be narrow, limited and unobtrusive when it comes to the individual lives of its citizenry.
    Because this is recognition of marriage from the law. There is no fundamental, legal changes in how marriage operates when you simply open it up to same sex couples the same as opposite sex couples have it. There are fundamental, legal changes in how marriage operates, for the people involved especially, but also in how the government, society deals with spouses, when there are more than two people legally married together or a person has more than one spouse. That is something that needs to be addressed prior to taking away the limitation of how many spouses a person can have at the same time.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    God's light no longer shines upon America. So went the Roman empire, so goes America.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Forgive me for snipping your post. All of it was interesting but that stands out for me. I'm not willing to bet my mortgage payment that your statement is correct. I don't think it's quite as simple as you make it out to be, and I'll venture to guess I'm not alone in that thinking. Unless religious exemption is guaranteed forever, this is debatable, IMO.
    It is that simple for several reasons. First, the First Amendment protects churches/clergy from performing any ceremony that goes against their religion. It would be a blatant violation of that Amendment to do otherwise. Public Accommodation laws do not apply to clergy members. The most the state could do would be to remove the ability of clergy to sign marriage licenses. That is the biggest threat the state could do, which would not be anything like forcing them to perform marriages (in fact, it is almost the opposite).
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    God's light no longer shines upon America. So went the Roman empire, so goes America.
    So, despite the divorce rate, child molesters, murders, riots, social injustices, declining rate of religion, especially Christianity, terrorism, lying, and so many other things that people do here and around the world, same sex marriage being legal everywhere instead of just most states in the US is what is going to remove God's light from our country? That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. It's plain crap. It not only presumes to know God's mind and know what "God's light" looks like, it also places homosexuality as a much higher sin or more important sin in God's perspective than all those other things.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Gay marriage is now legal in Kansas, I want a couple to marry right on the sidewalk, in front of the Westboro Baptist Church. Hopefully they'll even do the ceremony and take their vows through a megaphone. Nice and loud.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Gay marriage is now legal in Kansas, I want a couple to marry right on the sidewalk, in front of the Westboro Baptist Church. Hopefully they'll even do the ceremony and take their vows through a megaphone. Nice and loud.
    I would pay to see this!
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