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Thread: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They wouldn't have to give up their benefits. People that are married would keep their benefits, but the government would not issue any further licenses effectively ending government marriage once all current marriages end by either death or divorce. This wouldn't lead to any issues with the fourteenth amendment as the same conditions would be applied across board.



    I didn't expect it would.
    Hold on, don't swerve away. You suggested that those who wanted to have ssm legalized were just in it for the benefits. Are you suggesting that those in opposite sex marriages are not interested in the benefits?

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That's the impression I get from people on DP.
    Well with all due respect, you don't read people too good.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That's the impression I get from people on DP.
    You're literally the only person making that argument.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That's your opinion which polls show that most Americans don't agree with.

    Gay people getting married will have zero effect on any other marriage.
    Actually reserch shows that you're more likely to remain married if your parents are still married, or to divorce if your parents divorce. It's all about social stability, one of the supporting reasons to allow SSM.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That's the impression I get from people on DP.

    And why get married for love anyway? You don't need marriage to say you love someone, to commit to another person, to live with someone, to share your life with someone, to have children, to share your stuff, to raise children, etc, etc, etc. Why get married if there wasn't cool stuff to get because of it? Seems kind of pointless.
    Sounds like maybe you shouldn't get married.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Actually reserch shows that you're more likely to remain married if your parents are still married, or to divorce if your parents divorce. It's all about social stability, one of the supporting reasons to allow SSM.
    Agreed, but I think he was referring to some imaginary negative impact of a gay couple's marriage on some unconnected straight couple's marriage.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sounds like maybe you shouldn't get married.
    I would never dream of doing something so stupid. The risks are too great and the rewards don't interest me. And living with a woman is ****ing bad enough without her having claims to my stuff. And that alimony stuff, **** that.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Hold on, don't swerve away. You suggested that those who wanted to have ssm legalized were just in it for the benefits. Are you suggesting that those in opposite sex marriages are not interested in the benefits?
    I'm suggesting that both groups are in it for the same thing.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Agreed, but I think he was referring to some imaginary negative impact of a gay couple's marriage on some unconnected straight couple's marriage.
    That's not what he said, though.

    Any given relationship will impact more people than those in it.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Stable, self-sufficient, productive households are a legitimate state interest and therefore efforts to promote that pass the rational basis test.

    Only a whackjob interprets equal protection arguments as "no law can affect any person differently from any other person for any reason."
    I see - so all other things being "equal", two couples of whatever gender, one married and one not, should be treated differently by the government because to do otherwise makes you a "whackjob"? So, in other words, equality depends on whatever liberal definition exists at any point in time. It's not a principle, it's a slogan.
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