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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Your point was that marriage, since the dawn of time, has been between people of the same races? Sorry, I did not realize you agreed with the judge in Loving v. Virginia.
    Oh, jeez. You really are on a bad streak. Wrong again!
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why would churches be required/forced to marry people they don't want to marry? That by definition would requires them to accept homosexuality as something other than a sin which they are told to not commit. First amendment protections would apply like they did in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale.
    Once again, where did I say anything about churches being forced to adopt any beliefs, religious or otherwise?
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Technically you are correct. But if you look ALL of our clearly enumerated Rights are able to be regulated to some extent by the states. Does this mean that all the regulations that a state can possibly do are legitimate and not unconstitutional? Or is there a limit to what they can regulate? If there is a limit how do we go about deciding where that limit is? Who can do that determination so that mob rule does not interfere with Rights?
    The 14th amendment at least makes those limitations clear - there has to be a "compelling governmental interest" to void equal protection

    Re: polygamy - child custody, taxes, green cards, inheritance, court testimony, the fact equal protection doesn't even apply since like everyone they can marry a person they love, the ratio of multiple husbands to multiple wives all come to mind

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Ah, you failed. You got it wrong, I invite you to think a little harder, and try again. But, I'm not expecting too much.
    Whatever. I am married. Feel free to let me know how that fact has hurt you or your rights in any conceivable way. It seems you want to go out of your way to defend restricting my marriage, so I hope you have some compelling argument as to why you want to restrict my rights.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    The 14th amendment at least makes those limitations clear - there has to be a "compelling governmental interest" to void equal protection

    Re: polygamy - child custody, taxes, green cards, inheritance, court testimony, the fact equal protection doesn't even apply since like everyone they can marry a person they love, the ratio of multiple husbands to multiple wives all come to mind
    Where is it made clear there has to be compelling state interest to void equal protection? Making something clear usually means stating it outright, and I can't find any mention of anything pertaining to a compelling state interest.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Where is it made clear there has to be compelling state interest to void equal protection? Making something clear usually means stating it outright, and I can't find any mention of anything pertaining to a compelling state interest.
    Look up "levels of scrutiny".

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Once again, where did I say anything about churches being forced to adopt any beliefs, religious or otherwise?
    Sigh... here we go:

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I will state it for you...churches will not be required to marry same sex couples. Case closed.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Forgive me for snipping your post. All of it was interesting but that stands out for me. I'm not willing to bet my mortgage payment that your statement is correct. I don't think it's quite as simple as you make it out to be, and I'll venture to guess I'm not alone in that thinking. Unless religious exemption is guaranteed forever, this is debatable, IMO.
    You singled out that specific statement, and then asserted it wasn't entirely correct (thus not willing to put your house on it). If it's not correct in its entirety, then the opposite can happen. No? So then it's clear that you think churches may be forced to marry gays. That's not necessarily what you may want, but if CT isn't correct in his assertion to the 100%, then that is what your post is asserting can happen. Now, with that said: Churches won't, in any way, be forced to marry gays because the matter has already been sorted in previous cases. Case closed.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Look up "levels of scrutiny".
    I can't find that anywhere either.

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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Whatever. I am married. Feel free to let me know how that fact has hurt you or your rights in any conceivable way. It seems you want to go out of your way to defend restricting my marriage, so I hope you have some compelling argument as to why you want to restrict my rights.
    Oh, God, strike three. Wrong again. I guess you are just going to keep the blinders on. I just can't repost things I've been saying for days, weeks, and months.
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    Re: Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I can't find that anywhere either.
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    It is interstitial common law.

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