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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    To oust US companies or what? Cause strive? It this weren't the lone rangers, they must have a specific agenda.


    Cause Terror.....show the US that their interests and people aren't safe anywhere. Par for the course. Daesh has called for lone wolves to do what they can to go after us.

    I am just surprised that we don't have the usual, you know.....where some think this is helping Daesh to spread their propaganda.

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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's just as well. I don't really expect a direct reply.
    You may get a direct reply, but getting an honest one is another matter.

    There is often an enormous disconnect between what people claim to support and what their pattern of comments reveals by way of what they actually do support. A wise man once said to judge a tree by the fruit it produces, and I believe this to be quite sage advice.
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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You may get a direct reply, but getting an honest one is another matter.

    There is often an enormous disconnect between what people claim to support and what their pattern of comments reveals by way of what they actually do support. A wise man once said to judge a tree by the fruit it produces, and I believe this to be quite sage advice.


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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I once worked as a temporary laborer at one of their plants (it could have been a smaller one). At that location, they sold, but did not produce commercial and consumer level quantities of welding gasses. On any given day, they had about 300 full cylinders of various welding gasses on hand and an equal number of empties.

    Though this was enough for a boom, but I think it would have been harder to blow up the plant than one would think. The gasses were stored in seperate fire proof locations that did not join each other. Also, the cylinders themselves are very stout- a full time employee told me it took alot to rupture one. I believe the gasses also varied in potential explosive power.

    In short, the jihaders were probably fantasizing about "Hiroshima on the Seine" when what they probably would have produced if they systematically attacked the plant would have been say, a "three batallion fire".

    this, pressurized cylinders , particularly for the 80-90% of mostly "inert" (not technically true) would be more dangerous as projectiles.

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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    I would be very much against dealing with any idea by force because

    1 It lends credence to such ideas that they don't deserve

    2 Governments the industrialized west are just as likely to abuse the power to censor speach they don't like as they are anywhere else. We have allready seen the deportation (and subsequent torture) of anti-Gaddadi activists in the UK for example.

    A better way forward would be to support people like this Cleric launches 'counter-terrorism' curriculum - BBC News
    That is what I was referring to in education. The current education system in France and generally in Europe fails to deal with the subject of radicalism among the Muslim youth. As to using force I'm talking about people who will be convicted of incitement to radicalism by court, not just giving the government an authority to decide who fits the standards and who does not.
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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So really, what are you saying here? You support actions like this and you take far greater offense at people who object to acts like this than at people who do the killings?
    Explaining the causes of terror attacks means condoning them? What planet did you learn your logic from?

    Terror attacks are a problem, if you want to solve that problem you need to find out whats causing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    His extremely consistent pattern of defense whenever the subject arises will tell you the answer better than any he might muster by way of direct reply.
    Ah, more sniping from the apartheid supporter, why am I not surprised?

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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    this, pressurized cylinders , particularly for the 80-90% of mostly "inert" (not technically true) would be more dangerous as projectiles.
    Now that you mention it, I have seen photos after a fire at a plant where gas cylinders were not ruptured, but were blown a consideable distance from their storage area.

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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually the French President just said it was a "terrorist attack". But on the other hand, it may just be a discontent.
    Well he would say that, as he then can put in place even more draconian security measures. But something is not adding up on this attack.. hardly a public place, and the white flags with arabic writing is a strange one.. that is clearly either a very poorly educated radical or has nothing to do with radical Islam.
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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    When was the last time a neutral country was targetted?
    The US can never be a neutral country, it doesn't work like that.
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    Re: France attack: Man decapitated in attack near Lyon

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You mean Jumping the gun as in jumping the gun with typical knee jerk denial?

    Yep, it only took one post.
    No jumping the gun in calling it terror at the time of my post. For all we know it could be 2 guys that are pissed at the company for some reason and that is still the case.
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