Page 99 of 154 FirstFirst ... 4989979899100101109149 ... LastLast
Results 981 to 990 of 1534

Thread: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

  1. #981
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    59,744

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to a MIT economist who helped develop the law about half the money comes from medicare savings, another 25 percent from the added taxes on medical-device makers and drug companies and the rest rest from those families who make over $250,000 a year.



    How The Affordable Care Act Pays For Insurance Subsidies : Shots - Health News : NPR
    Was that the same Gruber who called the American electorate stupid? So you have no problem with someone else paying subsidies for your health insurance? Is that how you were raised? Only in the liberal world can you add more people to the insured role with many of them being high risk people and lower costs. Why do you believe anything coming out of a govt. that created the 18.2 trillion dollar debt we have today. Seems you don't understand who truly funds most of the uninsured expenses and continue to buy liberal rhetoric

  2. #982
    Sage
    minnie616's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:37 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    12,870

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Was that the same Gruber who called the American electorate stupid? So you have no problem with someone else paying subsidies for your health insurance? Is that how you were raised? Only in the liberal world can you add more people to the insured role with many of them being high risk people and lower costs. Why do you believe anything coming out of a govt. that created the 18.2 trillion dollar debt we have today. Seems you don't understand who truly funds most of the uninsured expenses and continue to buy liberal rhetoric

    Actually I do not need subsidies our family is one of the higher income families that is paying the higher taxes that is helping to pay for the subsidies.

  3. #983
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    59,744

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually I do not need subsidies our family is one of the higher income families that is paying the higher taxes that is helping to pay for the subsidies.
    So you have no problem sending tax dollars to the Federal Govt. to supplement uninsured in other states or communities rather than doing it locally through your state? Where exactly does it state that it is the Federal Government's responsibility to provide health insurance for uninsured individuals? Do results matter in your world? 18.2 trillion dollar debt, trillions in unfunded liabilities for SS and Medicare, and now another Federal entitlement program none of which ever cost what they were supposed to cost and always grew in size and scope?

  4. #984
    Professor

    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last Seen
    11-26-16 @ 02:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,367

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Maybe the Cons will finally stop trying to rely on legislation from the bench. Perhaps they will get smart and actually work WITH the PPACA (fix the legislation, where appropriate and expand state exchanges), because they are out of options in working against it.
    Thank you for acknowledging that the PPACA needs fixing. Poorly conceived, poorly written, poorly implemented. US remains the only developed country without universal health care and 35 million or so uninsured. The PPACA did not lower costs, result in a lower deficit, or any of the things proponents stated 5 years ago. The people opposing have been proven right on much of their objections.

  5. #985
    Sage
    minnie616's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:37 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    12,870

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you have no problem sending tax dollars to the Federal Govt. to supplement uninsured in other states or communities rather than doing it locally through your state? Where exactly does it state that it is the Federal Government's responsibility to provide health insurance for uninsured individuals? Do results matter in your world? 18.2 trillion dollar debt, trillions in unfunded liabilities for SS and Medicare, and now another Federal entitlement program none of which ever cost what they were supposed to cost and always grew in size and scope?
    We make more money.
    We pay more federal , and state taxes.
    Hopefully some of those taxes are used to help my fellow US citizens.
    I care about all my citizens not just those in my community or in my state.
    I highly value good health care and I think everyone should have access to good healthcare.
    I especially like the fact that the ACA has a lot of preventative healthcare with no co pay included in the plan.

  6. #986
    Quantum sufficit


    Threegoofs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    The birthplace of Italian Beef
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    22,800

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    where do you think the subsidies come from to fund ACA?
    From me.

    You're welcome.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

  7. #987
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    59,744

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    We make more money.
    We pay more federal , and state taxes.
    Hopefully some of those taxes are used to help my fellow US citizens.
    I care about all my citizens not just those in my community or in my state.
    I highly value good health care and I think everyone should have access to good healthcare.
    I especially like the fact that the ACA has a lot of preventative healthcare with no co pay included in the plan.
    Why don't you send your money directly to local charities or free clinics instead of the Federal Bureaucrats that created the 18.2 trillion dollar debt? You think the Federal govt is going to assure good quality healthcare? Where does quality appear in ACA?

  8. #988
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    59,744

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    From me.

    You're welcome.
    So send me your address so I can publish it for others who have seen their deductibles skyrocket. I am sure you will be happy to pay those as well.

  9. #989
    Sage
    minnie616's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:37 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    12,870

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why don't you send your money directly to local charities or free clinics instead of the Federal Bureaucrats that created the 18.2 trillion dollar debt? You think the Federal govt is going to assure good quality healthcare? Where does quality appear in ACA?
    We do give directly to charities.
    ...

    Since the ACA was passed more doctors have computerized records. More patients can monitor their lab results online and communicate with their doctors online. Hospitals and nurses use the computers bedside to make sure the correct patient is receiving the correct meds at the correct dosage. Duplicate tests are being elimated since nurses and doctors can view the results on previous tests even when those tests were taken out of state.

    This article also tells more quality results from the ACA


    The field of quality measurement is at a critical juncture. The Affordable Care Act (ACA)—which mentions “quality measures,” “performance measures,” or “measures of quality,” 128 times—heightened an already growing emphasis on quality measurement. With so much focus on quality, the resource burden on health care providers of taking and reporting measures for multiple agencies and payers is significant.

    Furthermore, the field itself is being transformed with the continued adoption of electronic health records (EHRs). Traditional measures are largely based on administrative or claims data. The increased use of EHRs create the opportunity to develop sophisticated electronic clinical quality measures (eQMs) leveraging clinical data, which when linked with clinical decision support tools and payment policy, have the potential to improve quality and decrease costs more dramatically than traditional ones.


    Innovative electronic measures on the horizon include “delta measures” calculating changes in patient health over time and care coordination measures for the electronic transfer of patient information (i.e., hospital discharge summary or consultant note successfully transmitted to the primary care physician). Additionally, traditional data abstraction methodologies for clinical data require labor intensive, chart review processes, which would be eliminated if data could be electronically extracted.
    Read more:

    The Melody Of Quality Measures: Harmonize And Standardize
    Last edited by minnie616; 07-01-15 at 01:23 PM.

  10. #990
    Sage
    Conservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    59,744

    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    We do give directly to charities.
    ...

    Since the ACA was passed more doctors have computerized records. More patients can monitor their lab results online and communicate with their doctors online. Hospitals and nurses use the computers bedside to make sure the correct patient is receiving the correct meds at the correct dosage. Duplicate tests are being elimated since nurses and doctors can view the results on previous tests even when those tests were taken out of state.

    This article also tells more quality results from the ACA



    Read more:

    The Melody Of Quality Measures: Harmonize And Standardize
    Keep buying the rhetoric and ignoring results. Please use logic and common sense and tell me how a massive federal entitlement program that is going to insure millions more Americans many of whom are high risk is going to cost less or even come close to Federal projections? Name for me just one Federal entitlement program that ever cost what it was supposed to cost over time?

    Do you realize that you are buying the leftwing rhetoric that the Federal Govt. does things cheaper. Once an entitlement program is created it never goes away and always increases in cost. If you want to truly control costs do it at the state level and in conjunction with things that actually will benefit healthcare costs such as tort reform. You have to realize that ACA doesn't do a thing about quality but rather simply buys votes by gaining access. Anyway the uninsured costs are mostly paid for by the state not the Federal taxpayers.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •