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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I don't ignore studies, son. I just use common sense when deciding which ones to take seriously.
    That's the same thing. If you're accepting those studies that happen to align with your assumptions and ignoring those studies that conflict with your assumptions, that is no different than just ignoring all studies and going with your assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    No I am not a flat earther but some liberals have even asked me to prove that the earth is round even though is a common knowledge. Oy.. them liberals....go figure.. lols
    ...ain't no such thing as common sense nor common knowledge. You make the assertion that the earth is round with me, you better be prepared to show credible third party evidence to support that assertion. I sure as hill won't simply take your rank amateur word for it....

    ... than again, I probably would pass on the earth is round claim.... we have yahoos on this board that have never studied law yet claim there is NO legal defense of certain SCOTUS decisions... they have ZERO expertise, but tell us they know more than every lawyer in the country (I just love that deadly mix of arrogance and ignorance) .... them's are the id**ts that need to do the 'splainin' (or need to find themselves an AOL chatroom)..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You guys have been wrong in predicting these cases again and again. When will you consider you know know the law or the Constitution as well as you think?
    Well, in fairness, they are completely wrong about a lot of other stuff too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, in fairness, they are completely wrong about a lot of other stuff too.
    Noticed how you ran from my post and tough questions as you continue to parrot the liberal talking points without doing any actual research to verify the rhetoric you are told. How would you know that conservatives are wrong about other things as well since results don't matter to you and other Obama supporters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Noticed how you ran from my post and tough questions as you continue to parrot the liberal talking points without doing any actual research to verify the rhetoric you are told. How would you know that conservatives are wrong about other things as well since results don't matter to you and other Obama supporters
    LOL. You mean when I nailed you to the wall on misstatements (because health care is a field that is my profession and I've been involved in both the public and private sectors for 25 years - which I'm pretty sure qualifies as 'research') and you ignored it and started screaming about liberals taking your tax money, and then demanded I answer to your ideological cartoon position?
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    LOL. You mean when I nailed you to the wall on misstatements (because health care is a field that is my profession and I've been involved in both the public and private sectors for 25 years - which I'm pretty sure qualifies as 'research') and you ignored it and started screaming about liberals taking your tax money, and then demanded I answer to your ideological cartoon position?
    I have ignored nothing including the reality that healthcare deductibles have gone up and there is no way to insure 50 million uninsured many of whom are high risk and lower costs. If you lower healthcare costs but increase deductibles what have you accomplished?

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    LOL. You mean when I nailed you to the wall on misstatements (because health care is a field that is my profession and I've been involved in both the public and private sectors for 25 years - which I'm pretty sure qualifies as 'research') and you ignored it and started screaming about liberals taking your tax money, and then demanded I answer to your ideological cartoon position?
    I know it so funny how some who are so opposed to " Obamacare " think having private insurance means they don't have " Obamacare".

    My sister in law is totally against the ACA which she calls Obamacare but she was so happy she was able to help her 23 year son who lives out state ( and save a lot of money too ) by adding him to her policy.

    She doesn't even know that if were not for the ACA ( " Obamacare ") she would not be able to do that. She thinks since she has private insurance she does not have that dreaded " Obamacare".

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I know it so funny how some who are so opposed to " Obamacare " think having private insurance means they don't have " Obamacare".

    My sister in law is totally against the ACA which she calls Obamacare but she was so happy she was able to help her 23 year son who lives out state ( and save a lot of money too ) by adding him to her policy.

    She doesn't even know that if were not for the ACA ( " Obamacare ") she would not be able to do that. She thinks since she has private insurance she does not have that dreaded " Obamacare".
    where do you think the subsidies come from to fund ACA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    where do you think the subsidies come from to fund ACA?
    According to a MIT economist who helped develop the law about half the money comes from medicare savings, another 25 percent from the added taxes on medical-device makers and drug companies and the rest rest from those families who make over $250,000 a year.

    MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, who helped develop the law, says about half the costs are offset by projected savings in Medicare payments to insurers and hospitals. Another quarter is offset by added taxes on medical-device makers and drug companies.

    "The other source of revenue is a tax increase on the wealthiest Americans," he says. "Those families with incomes above $250,000 a year will now have to pay more in Medicare payroll taxes."

    Those provisions actually make the bill a net positive for the federal budget, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. By the CBO's accounting, Obamacare will produce a surplus. Gruber says the law will "actually lower the deficit by about $100 billion over the next decade and by $1 trillion in the decade after."
    How The Affordable Care Act Pays For Insurance Subsidies : Shots - Health News : NPR

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