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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post




    Anecdotal, unproven, irrelevant.
    don't read the news do you.

    Millennials
    O-Care premiums to skyrocket | TheHill

    and the big one for next year
    Obamacare: 2016 sticker shock | WashingtonExaminer.com

    so yes your post is irrelevant in the face of facts.

    Obamacare Increases Large Employers' Health Costs - Forbes

    yep your post is even more irrelevant.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Obviously reasonable minds can come to different conclusions. The point was there was legal precedent on both sides. It's just not a slam dunk case.
    Then you concede that the Supreme Court can craft legislation, that is what happened today. ACA language does not support this decision, political intention trumps what words mean.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes we know, Democrats caused a mess, and it's the Republicans fault if they don't clean it up.

    Lot's of other things to address. Why not let people live with what the Democrats did to them. Seems reasonable to me.
    If they don't want to clean up the "mess" caused by Democrats, why did they run for office and why would anyone vote for them? Any moron can take office, collect big donations from billionaires, and sit on their rear pointing fingers at the other guys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I believe there was no real choice - in practical terms it was too much of a mess (for everyone involved) if the subsidies were lost.

    And these guys are pros at using logical argument to get wherever they'd like to go; reference Justice Roberts declaring ObamaCare a tax to keep it alive!
    The Govt. mandated that a person must pay, is that not a tax?
    Estimated at 16 million would lose coverage in those States.
    And the Republicans would not /did not have a plan other than repealing Obamacare.
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Conservatives didn't draft a piss poor bill, so poorly written that it needs to go to SCOTUS to be interpreted.
    Yes Conservatives have never written a bill that was challenged in any way in the courts.......
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I believe there was no real choice - in practical terms it was too much of a mess (for everyone involved) if the subsidies were lost.

    And these guys are pros at using logical argument to get wherever they'd like to go; reference Justice Roberts declaring ObamaCare a tax to keep it alive!
    that isn't a logical argument at all. more so when the administration had been calling it a penalty for years prior even to the point of denouncing it was a tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies

    Story just now breaking. More info to come soon. Millions of Americans get to keep their healthcare. A huge win for the Obama admin.
    So... I just finished reading the opinion and the dissent. Scallia eviscerates the justification behind the opinion. His last line as follows is masterful "And the cases will publish forever the discouraging truth that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites.
    I dissent."
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    Thought I heard a car backfire, but it was coming from the west.. must have been all the GOP heads exploding in anger.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The Govt. mandated that a person must pay, is that not a tax?
    Estimated at 16 million would lose coverage in those States.
    And the Republicans would not /did not have a plan other than repealing Obamacare.
    not according to the administration. it was a tax penalty they even went as far as standing up and saying that it wasn't a tax.
    yep they did and more will lose it as soon as the employor mandate goes into effect.

    they don't have to have a plan. things could have continued the way they were.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Nothing surprising here. Legislators failed to uphold the constitution when they passed the ACA. The executive violated the law in signing it. The Supreme court failed to protect the law. The voters dont really care to hold govt accountable.

    The entire system has failed, and this is just one more example. The only solution is to abolish the federal govt and start over.

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