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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Yet the only candidate the GOP can put up with a ghost of a chance against her is unlikely to make it through the hustings, even if he manages to lose his last name in the process..
    There are several who would be problematical for Hillary. You alluded to Jeb. The Repub Dems fear most is Marco Rubio. Scott Walker and John Kasich would also be formidable.
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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There are several who would be problematical for Hillary. You alluded to Jeb. The Repub Dems fear most is Marco Rubio. Scott Walker and John Kasich would also be formidable.
    After voting and supporting an incompetent like Obama, Democrats don't have a lot of credibility talking about GOP candidates since they don't have any concept of quality, experience, and a successful resume.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There are several who would be problematical for Hillary. You alluded to Jeb. The Repub Dems fear most is Marco Rubio. Scott Walker and John Kasich would also be formidable.
    : They're already busy demonizing Rubio and Walker. Kasich hasn't declared yet, so they haven't started on him, but if and when he does, they will, big time IMO, because Kasich is from Ohio, one of the "must-carry" States for the Repubs! I wonder if he has any speeding tickets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : They're already busy demonizing Rubio and Walker. Kasich hasn't declared yet, so they haven't started on him, but if and when he does, they will, big time IMO, because Kasich is from Ohio, one of the "must-carry" States for the Repubs! I wonder if he has any speeding tickets?
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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I wonder if at any time during my life someone will actually propose a healthcare law that positively impacts those of us who have been paying for our own healthcare insurance during our working lives, you know....make healthcare affordable for everyone and not just the people who need the rest of us to subsidize them and their families. Dare to dream....
    Amen!

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    This and the SC ruling on gay marriage. It's a bad day to be a conservative, you could almot pity them.
    It's okay, son. Obamacare gave us control of the house of reps, the senate, and most of the state legislatures and governorships in the nation. ACA is a horrible law that is having a devastating effect on the middle class, however politically it is the gift that keeps on giving. I suspect that the democrats who are now taking victory laps over the US Supreme Court decision will again run away from Obamacare in the 2016 race as they did in 2014.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    Well, prices have been rising more slowly since the ACA went into effect, so that's at least something, but if you actually want to see the prices get under control, the only way to do that is single payer. A public option might help, but only single payer really solves the problem.
    The claim of prices rising more slowly is an outright DNC lie. As for single payer,...obamacare killed any chance of that happening for a very long time.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : They're already busy demonizing Rubio and Walker. Kasich hasn't declared yet, so they haven't started on him, but if and when he does, they will, big time IMO, because Kasich is from Ohio, one of the "must-carry" States for the Repubs! I wonder if he has any speeding tickets?
    Kasich has made the moral case for embracing the ACA's Medicaid expansion. That's got to be a tough sell in a GOP primary.

    In the primaries four years ago Rick Perry got himself into trouble by supporting compassion for immigrant children and charging that opponents of DREAM-esqe legislation are heartless ("If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they have been brought there by no fault of their own, I donít think you have a heart."). That didn't go over well with the base, as I recall.

    Kasich has arguably gone further, implying opponents of Obama's Medicaid expansion are going to hell: "Now, when you die and get to the meeting with St. Peter, heís probably not going to ask you much about what you did about keeping government small. But he is going to ask you what you did for the poor. You better have a good answer." How are the poor-bashing, ACA-despising ogres in the base going to like it when he holds a mirror up to them?

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It isn't called the "Slower Price Increase Act". It's falsely labeled. It doesn't make healthcare affordable. It isn't affordable. In fact, it's the opposite. If they truly wanted to make healthcare affordable, that wasn't the way to do it.
    What is amusing is that right after the massive increases they sing: "But but but.. it's increasing slower"

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    The claim of prices rising more slowly is an outright DNC lie.
    Welcome to Earth.

    Hospital prices drop for the first time
    By Melanie Evans | February 21, 2015

    Payers' efforts to drive down hospital prices may be succeeding.

    Prices that private and public health insurers paid to acute-care hospitals declined in January, compared with the same month a year ago, the first time they have dropped since the federal government began collecting these data. . .

    This appears to be a combination of the public sector pressure, but an even more fierce change on behalf of the private payers,” said Paul Hughes-Cromwick, a senior health economist at the Altarum Institute's Center for Sustainable Health Spending.

    “Insurers are more aggressively bargaining with hospitals and more aggressively investing in programs that lower hospital utilization rates,” said Neraj Sood, an associate professor in health economics and policy at the University of Southern California.

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