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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Grandma should pay her own way.
    Sure, she should. Many cannot. So I guess we put them on the mountain on a very cold night with a small fire, let them go to sleep, and collect their body in the morning.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Sure, she should. Many cannot. So I guess we put them on the mountain on a very cold night with a small fire, let them go to sleep, and collect their body in the morning.
    I prefer putting them in wheelchairs and flinging them off cliffs. Seriously though, it's not my problem if they can't afford.something.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    Yes. The general consensus is that single payer causes costs to basically stop increasing entirely, a public option causes them to rise slowly and the ACA was expected to do about exactly what it has done- slow the rate of increase in prices, but not nearly enough.
    By stopping " cost " increases you mean it's " free " ??

    I'm not a Liberal, I'm a proud Conservative who's not naive enough to buy into the promises of " Free healthcare " for everyone. Single Payer would be anything and everything but " free ".

    If it's so cost effective, if it's such a practical and viable alternative then why did Vermont bail on single payer ?? They bailed because it wasn't " free ". They bailed because the tax increases needed to make single payer happen would have had a severe impact on their local economy.

    Whether your'e Vermont or the USA, you can't fund a new and massive entitlement while simultaneously destroying your economy and driving away your tax base. Debt is real and consequential, no matter what the MMT fairy says.

    The American people were lied to more than once by this President and his party and because of that, and a pathetic economic recovery, and disastrous foreign policy decisions the Democrats were persona non grata in the 2014 Mid-terms. Since ObamaCare isn't going to magically morph into a good law just because the SC ruled its favor, since it's going to continue to hurt the Middle Class, increase out of pocket cost and continue to be a drag on the economy, the Democrats are going to be even less popular in 2016.

    If the SC had ruled in the GOP's favor, the GOP would be forced to fix the unfixable and then would have been blamed in the upcoming elections. There's always a bright side.

    Obama bragged after the SC decision, but what the SC decision really did was keep the Albatross that is the ACA hanging around the necks of the people that forced it down our throats. The Democrat party.

    I look forward to more Democrat candidates in 2016 NOT talking about their Presidents signature legislation and I look forward to Hillary Clinton avoiding the issue also while more Americans feel the brunt of the last 8 years of foolish and destructive progressive initiatives.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    So you've never shopped for a lower priced service. Yet complain about the price of services. Hmm! What on earth could be the problem here?

    To the guy questioning the value of deductibles to price sensitivity and market dynamics: see utter lack of both above. And misdirected consumer angst that results from lack thereof.
    Oh, so it's because I never "shopped the price of services" (because I don't have to, and because they are what they are, anyway) that the reason for the cost of services is high. Amirite?

    Your posts are not usually this clueless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    By stopping " cost " increases you mean it's " free " ??

    I'm not a Liberal, I'm a proud Conservative who's not naive enough to buy into the promises of " Free healthcare " for everyone. Single Payer would be anything and everything but " free ".
    Since ObamaCare isn't going to magically morph into a good law just because the SC ruled its favor, since it's going to continue to hurt the Middle Class, increase out of pocket cost and continue to be a drag on the economy, the Democrats are going to be even less popular in 2016.
    That's the second time you're brought up cost-sharing as a negative, just in the last few thread pages.

    Let me make sure I understand. Health care should never be free. Nor should people share in the costs they incur.

    Is that where we're at? The "proud conservative" position? I honestly can't tell if you realize that in effect you've adopted the left's argument. You're in fine company, most of the right has at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh, so it's because I never "shopped the price of services" (because I don't have to, and because they are what they are, anyway) that the reason for the cost of services is high. Amirite?
    ...yeah, that's why the prices are high. Are you serious with this question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I prefer putting them in wheelchairs and flinging them off cliffs. Seriously though, it's not my problem if they can't afford.something.
    Well, I figured that. Which is why I didn't try to make a serious point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, I figured that. Which is why I didn't try to make a serious point.
    So if it not my problem nor my concern exactly why should I pay for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    ...yeah, that's why the prices are high. Are you serious with this question?
    The post you made warranted a stupid question. It was a very stupid post.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    By stopping " cost " increases you mean it's " free " ??

    I'm not a Liberal, I'm a proud Conservative who's not naive enough to buy into the promises of " Free healthcare " for everyone. Single Payer would be anything and everything but " free ".

    If it's so cost effective, if it's such a practical and viable alternative then why did Vermont bail on single payer ?? They bailed because it wasn't " free ".
    Not really sure what you're arguing. Are you saying that you think we should stick with rapidly rising costs unless somebody can invent a magical alternative that would make it free? Why? Isn't costs that aren't rising better than costs that are rising slowly? Aren't costs that rise slowly better than costs that rise rapidly?

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