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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You think there is not one Republican or undecided who would lose their insurance if the ACA was "repealed"? LOL
    Anyone who's invested in ACA is an unlikely Repub voter.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Most can see the difference between a liberal and conservative by simply watching your posts.
    I'm sure any true conservative would not want to be associated with yer posts.

    >> conservatives are successful and liberals rely on the govt. failures.

    Yer a failure as a human being.

    >>I look at the employment numbers of December 2007 as the base upon which to work

    Because you don't know what yer doing. Those are bubble highs. That's what led to the crash.

    >>in Obama's case the lack of significant growth in the private sector.

    The data clearly show that to be false.

    >>jobs lost aren't created they are recovered

    Semantic nonsense.

    >>part time work created by the Obama economy.

    I posted the numbers. Yer lying. Again.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    I'm sure any true conservative would not want to be associated with yer posts.

    >> conservatives are successful and liberals rely on the govt. failures.

    Yer a failure as a human being.

    >>I look at the employment numbers of December 2007 as the base upon which to work

    Because you don't know what yer doing. Those are bubble highs. That's what led to the crash.

    >>in Obama's case the lack of significant growth in the private sector.

    The data clearly show that to be false.

    >>jobs lost aren't created they are recovered

    Semantic nonsense.

    >>part time work created by the Obama economy.

    I posted the numbers. Yer lying. Again.
    I don't normally report people but if you don't stop with the personal attacks I will change my position on doing just that. the data you post is biased, partisan and full of holes. The problem is you couldn't sell your position to the electorate which is why Obama lost the Congress. Seems that only people like you in need of another taxpayer funded entitlement buys the Obama and liberal rhetoric. You have no understanding of basic economics, no understanding of the role of the govt. and as has been shown no understanding of the taxes you pay or their purpose.

    Such passion you have for liberalism as results don't matter as much as the opinion of others. You want to believe what you are told but have no concept of reality living in your own little dream world. I stand by my numbers

    December 2007 146 million working Americans
    January 2009 142 million working Americans
    January 2011 139 million working Americans

    January 2009 10.6 trillion in debt
    Current 18.2 trillion in debt

    GDP when Bush took office 10.2 trillion, the end of 2008 it was 14.7 trillion. Obama adds 842 billion in tax funded stimulus that added to the debt but showed some GDP growth, none of which was sustainable or felt by the electorate. Obama loses Congress

    Since you blame Bush for the recession wonder why the Democrat Controlled Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 didn't stop him??

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How many is very few?
    Only the extremely stupid. People like you.

    >>I'm just enjoying you make up nonsense using vague terms like "many" and "very few" and basing it on absolutely nothing. Quite entertaining.

    You'll have to return to yer usual activity of playing with yerself. I won't waste any time after this post responding to yer childish twatery.

    >>I never claimed to pay for the U.S. Marine corps.

    It's Corps. And you say you pay for everything you get. They protect yer sorry ass and you suck on the federal teat in receiving that protection.

    >>And still irrelevant.

    Only to morons.

    I'm disappointed.

    Yer disappointing.

    >>Opinions are like assholes... everyone's got one.

    And you are one.

    >>Actually it's frogs with wings - not frogs that can fly.

    They would use them to fly or else have no need for them.

    >>Nothing you've posted is common sense but it's funny you think it is.

    Some of it is common sense. You wouldn't recognize that. The rest of is informed opinion or fact. You wouldn't be able to comprehend that.

    >>People don't pay for anything I enjoy.

    Yes, they do.

    >>I pay my share you pay your share

    Perhaps you do. Yer share doesn't foot the bill.

    >>What I laugh at is somehow you pay for me

    I find it kinda sad. Maybe ISIL would settle down if we handed you over to them.

    >>you don't pay anything for me as I've already stated.

    Oh yes, you've stated it. Yer wrong. Yer an idiot.

    >>It matters if you claim it's a choice

    I can choose to ignore you, and I will from now on.

    >>now you don't want to answer!

    I have "many" better things to do.

    >>I benefit by what taxes I pay sweetie

    "Sweetie"? Yer confusing me with the man yer currently sleeping with.

    >>what you pay benefits you.

    It (sadly) benefits you as well. Yer too stupid to see that.

    >>You still have failed to provide any evidence that I benefit from anything you pay

    I provided it right at the beginning. You benefit from the Marines. You don't pay the cost of that institution. No individual does.

    >>And factual as an adult.

    I'd say you've got a long way to go.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Anyone who's invested in ACA is an unlikely Repub voter.
    Exactly and that is why repeal is a losing stand to take and will only get progressively more so. The polls keep narrowing and now they are nearly equal.


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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Continued Repub control of the House is certain. Repubs have at least a 50/50 chance to hold the Senate. If Hillary is the Dem POTUS nominee and the Repubs nominate one of their better candidates then their odds for POTUS are also no worse than 50/50.
    Considering the Cons must win ALL of Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Arizona, Georgia and Colorado (with either NH, IA or NV).... win them ALL to win the Presidency and the Dems need just ONE of those states, I would say the odds of a Repub win of the White House are no better than remote.

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    The White House is at, to beyond, the outstretched fingertips of the Republicans, while the Dems have a reasonable grip on it.... (not impossible, just improbable)

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Anyone who's invested in ACA is an unlikely Repub voter.
    ... or they do not realize they are "invested", dependent or otherwise beneficiaries thereof, which most people do not...

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Considering the Cons must win ALL of Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Arizona, Georgia and Colorado (with either NH, IA or NV).... win them ALL to win the Presidency and the Dems need just ONE of those states, I would say the odds of a Repub win of the White House are no better than remote.

    The missing story of the 2014 election - GOPlifer
    Can a Republican Win 270 Electoral Votes in 2016...or Ever? - The Daily Beast
    The Democrats have a lock on the White House - MarketWatch

    The White House is at, to beyond, the outstretched fingertips of the Republicans, while the Dems have a reasonable grip on it.... (not impossible, just improbable)
    That kind of overconfidence can lead to defeat.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Exactly and that is why repeal is a losing stand to take and will only get progressively more so. The polls keep narrowing and now they are nearly equal.

    That's why we have elections.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The Democrats could have simply expanded Medicaid and not touched my insurance and gotten essentially the same results.
    No, that's not true. What about all the households that qualify for subsidies but not Medicaid? How would they have be provided the help they require to pay for adequate insurance?

    >>All the trumpeting of the success of ACA has everything to do with an expansion of welfare and little to do with the rest of the law that screwed over everyone else in the process.

    It has nothing to do with the expansion of "welfare." It has everything to do with making high-quality, affordable health insurance available to as many Americans as possible. And how are others "screwed over"? Society benefits.

    >>You challenged my point and now admit I'm right.

    I'm pointing out yer error. Will you admit that yer wrong?

    >>For all the bulls*** with exchanges and new mandatory coverages health insurance is more expensive to everyone but Medicaid recipients, and OOP is through the roof for anyone with a job even while the Government is still subsidizing insurers losses.

    You offer no evidence to back that up.
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