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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    There is a perverse pleasure watching our right-wing friends post page after page of how this now settled law is somehow not a law just because they were sure the SCOTUS would rule in their favor. There must be some tear-soaked keyboards in the rooms of some of our most fundamental right wing nuts here at the DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I stopped reading at liberal ideologue, Conservative.
    Do you believe this is the worst possible thing you can ever call a person ?
    It should be based upon results but then again results don't matter to a liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So now YER all the way back to Social Security and FDR, eh Conservative ?
    Costs are costs, debt is debt but debt has to be paid for. Current costs are 250 billion per year at these record low interest rates. You have no problem spending in the name of compassion so how about some compassionate results. Wonder what that 250 billion could generate in actually helping people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Absolutely stunning at how indoctrinated so many people are in this country today, people who believe it is the Federal Governments responsibility to take over personal responsibility issues of individual Americans. Incredible how poorly informed people are in that most do not seem to understand where the money comes from to fund these programs nor do they seem to care if someone else pays for their personal responsibility issues. This country has far too many people that have been Gruberized.
    When the GOP stands on repealing Medicare and SS and replacing it with nothing, I'll believe that nonsense. When the ACA passed, the GOP ran on scaring grandma that Obama was going to cut their Medicare to fund socialized medicine. Gruberized right wingers held signs, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare."

    So lectures on being Gruberized by a "conservative" who votes for a party that defends socialized Medicine (Medicare) against another less socialized medical insurance program make me laugh.

    FWIW, we pay plenty of taxes, and lots of it goes to stuff I don't like. That's life in an industrialized country. I'll deal with it. Tired of whiners living in a first world country and complaining that they have to pay taxes for the privilege. Boo hooo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    Actually I think it was a crushing recession that cost the party in power--as they always do.
    The GOP had a flawless plan to take the House in 2010. (see the GOP architect who was interviewed by Maddow a few months ago)
    Also, DEMs crushed themselves by not voting, just as they did in 1990--these two census mid-terms gave us this Gerry-Mandered House.
    Dems have nobody to blame but themselves for not voting--which is why Clinton will NOT tack too far to the center.

    In 2014, 33% of all voters voted--depressing the turnout has been a hallmark of the GOP since the days of Nixon.
    And chicken-**** DEMs ran away from their POTUS and his economy--one that McConnell tried to take credit for after the fact early on this year .
    Chemists Have Solutions .

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    There is a perverse pleasure watching our right-wing friends post page after page of how this now settled law is somehow not a law just because they were sure the SCOTUS would rule in their favor. There must be some tear-soaked keyboards in the rooms of some of our most fundamental right wing nuts here at the DP.
    It's certainly not going to be overturned by the judiciary. ACA remains politically vulnerable because it was enacted on a party line basis. If the 2016 elections result in Repub control of House, Senate and White House then ACA could be an early casualty.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    JasperL;1064755780]When the GOP stands on repealing Medicare and SS and replacing it with nothing, I'll believe that nonsense. When the ACA passed, the GOP ran on scaring grandma that Obama was going to cut their Medicare to fund socialized medicine. Gruberized right wingers held signs, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare."
    No surprising rhetoric from the party that takes great pride in scaring seniors and the party that actually stole from SS and Medicare to fund things like the Vietnam War and other pet projects. There is a reason that these programs have trillions in unfunded liabilities. When will you hold your politicians accountable for spending the funds you contributed to SS?

    So lectures on being Gruberized by a "conservative" who votes for a party that defends socialized Medicine (Medicare) against another less socialized medical insurance program make me laugh.
    SS and Medicare are self funding programs, they are entitlement programs that allowed the Federal bureaucrats to have a slush fund. You have no problem giving them more money to waste

    FWIW, we pay plenty of taxes, and lots of it goes to stuff I don't like. That's life in an industrialized country. I'll deal with it. Tired of whiners living in a first world country and complaining that they have to pay taxes for the privilege. Boo hooo.
    no what is wrong in this country is people like you have no concept on the taxes you pay or their purpose. You bought into the unified budget thus unfunded liabilities aren't a problem for you. You buy what you are told and ignore actual results.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It's certainly not going to be overturned by the judiciary. ACA remains politically vulnerable because it was enacted on a party line basis. If the 2016 elections result in Repub control of House, Senate and White House then ACA could be an early casualty.
    If...? I doubt you will see any of this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The GOP had a flawless plan to take the House in 2010. (see the GOP architect who was interviewed by Maddow a few months ago)
    Also, DEMs crushed themselves by not voting, just as they did in 1990--these two census mid-terms gave us this Gerry-Mandered House.
    Dems have nobody to blame but themselves for not voting--which is why Clinton will NOT tack too far to the center.

    In 2014, 33% of all voters voted--depressing the turnout has been a hallmark of the GOP since the days of Nixon.
    And chicken-**** DEMs ran away from their POTUS and his economy--one that McConnell tried to take credit for after the fact early on this year .
    Keep believing that liberal bs, low turnout, Obama isn't the problem/it is the GOP, it is the government's responsibility to take care of you. Yes, that is liberal rhetoric and we see the liberal results. when will you hold your party accountable for the terrible results the last 6 years?

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have no clue as to what you are posting or how to read the articles you claim support your point of view.
    And yet you can't refute my claims.

    >>there were 142 million working Americans when Obama took office and there are 148 million now

    Employment fell to 138 million by the end of 2009, while the effects of the Great Recession, which resulted from tax cuts for the wealthy and an irresponsible deregulation of the financial sector, played through the labor market.

    Over the past five years, private-sector employment has increased by 12.6 million to 122 million, while public-sector jobs have decreased by about two million.

    >>there are 6.5 million part time employees now included in the employment number

    There are 27.5 million part-time workers. The 6.5 million figure is working part-time for economic reasons. There were more than eight million of those when Bush43 left office.

    Total part-time employment, which includes those who choose to work part-time, has been basically flat since a spike caused by the Great Recession. Other than that, it's pretty much followed the growth in the labor force for the past few decades, other than a spike in 1994. Dunno what that was about.

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    Full-time employment under Obama has grown from 110.6 in Dec 2009 to 121.4 last month, up by 10.8 million.

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    >>Stop making Gruber look brilliant

    You make a clump of dirt look brilliant.
    "I loved him. You loved him. What good have we done him? Love. Look at yourself. They have a name for faces like that." Anna Schmidt, in The Third Man Anna walks away

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