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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    Yah! And maybe we'll be back to the good ol' days and take away health insurance from 20 million Americans and it'll be GREAT!!!!
    Better to take away from 6 million or, rather, no longer subsidize on other people's dime, than to compel 60 million to pay too much for something they don't need.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    It is the left that is working to salvage unpopular and unconstitutional legislation through activist justices on the US Supreme Court. Justice Roberts went through mental gymanastics in an attempt to justify both of his decisions in both lawsuits in regards to Obamacare. And the only way to fix PPACA (so called) is to repeal it and replace it with something that is constitutional and works.
    That is classic sour grapes. Yes, all those activist judges appointed by conservatives that are lying in wait to write liberal legislation. Forgive my laughter. I know its rude.

    The reality is that if you bring a frivolous lawsuit, which this was, you get shot down 6 to 3, with the only 3 votes from activist justices. The only reason this went to the SOCTUS was so they could write a comprehensive decision to take away the idea that you could look to the courts to undo legislation. This is what they did: shut down the courts as a method of killing/hurting the PPACA.

    Its time to work WITH the bill, as options to work against it are all but gone.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since my health care has never been paid for by the Feds, you'd be wrong about me.

    And yes, the father of nullification John C. Calhoun would be rolling over in his grave.
    Yet he was a strong central fed guy at one point in his life.

    Not his father though--he refused to sign the Constitution that nullifiers now point to .
    Right, you aren't involved in Obamacare yet you seem to know what is best for someone else. Give up your insurance and go with Obamacare. Walk the talk or accept the fact that you have zero credibility on the issue.

    The Founders didn't believe in a strong central govt. but people like you have been indoctrinated into accepting the massive increase in the role of that federal govt. a role our Founders did not support. Our Founders had a part time legislature which tells what they felt about a strong central govt. They knew like many of us that power corrupts and this govt. has generated an 18.2 trillion dollar debt and you don't have any problem giving them more money to waste. Brilliant. There is no question who Gruber interviewed in making his claim about stupid Americans, most Obama supporters and big govt. liberals.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The plan now known as Obamacare, was founded in a conservative think tank, first proposed and articulated for law as the conservative alternative to "hillarycare" and finally implemented and field tested under the direction of a Republican governor. This was a frivolous lawsuit that was solely based on trying to take a few words out of context. While I agree that such a section was sloppy, we are blessed, in this case, that we have a SOCTUS that weighed substance over form.

    Its time to move on, Cons. This continued wallowing in the best is rather unbecoming.


    Stretch AND spin.

    I guess all those speeches your messiah gave about designing it, the amendments HE made, we lies too.

    The truth is the bare bones hybrid plan has been around a long time, laughed at even longer and was indeed the basis of the plan Obama claimed credit for. However, the fine points that line the pockets of the insurance companies are ALL his.

    Remember when the lying prick tried to lie about "you can keep your plan" when he went to Boston to claim Romney was to blame. The American people, even MSNBC didn't believe that **** then, they don't believe it now, and no historian will ever claim it. But lie on. Its the way of the Democratic Party under Obama and Clinton, make every **** up about people who had no hand in it, when it doubt post some negative **** about Sarah Palin. Meanwhile the rest of the industrialized world is laughing all the way to the bank as the new global economy see the brightest and the best workers are choosing UHC over the Cadillac priced KIA Obama threw out
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since my health care has never been paid for by the Feds, you'd be wrong about me.

    And yes, the father of nullification John C. Calhoun would be rolling over in his grave.
    Yet he was a strong central fed guy at one point in his life.

    Not his father though--he refused to sign the Constitution that nullifiers now point to .
    Right, you aren't involved in Obamacare yet you seem to know what is best for someone else. Give up your insurance and go with Obamacare. Walk the talk or accept the fact that you have zero credibility on the issue.

    The Founders didn't believe in a strong central govt. but people like you have been indoctrinated into accepting the massive increase in the role of that federal govt. a role our Founders did not support. Our Founders had a part time legislature which tells what they felt about a strong central govt. They knew like many of us that power corrupts and this govt. has generated an 18.2 trillion dollar debt and you don't have any problem giving them more money to waste. Brilliant. There is no question who Gruber interviewed in making his claim about stupid Americans, most Obama supporters and big govt. liberals.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    1. Congress created the law.
    2. The President signed the law.
    3. SCOTUS found the law Constitutiional TWICE
    It's not even close to being Constitutional, lol...

    No rational, informed, honest person would conclude that it is Constitutional. Only corrupt, dishonest, activist jurists would approve it. Exhibit A: The SCOTUS. All 9 need to be impeached.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...at this point, the GOP can not ever repeal this without a well articulated REPLACE.
    Since they will be unable to ever agree upon and articulate one, the PPACA is here to stay.
    Did the Roberts/Kennedy Libertarian wing of the USSC just throw an electoral lifeline to the GOP--as they did with VRA and CU 1.0/2.0?
    Surely they knew the GOP would explode apart with what to "REPLACE" ACA for millions.
    Now, the GOP has their 2010/2014 issue intact without having to act .
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you have yet to prove they are infallible. in fact I think you railed against citizens united and railed against hobby lobby.
    so you evidently only think they are correct when they support your political bias vs the constitution.
    I certainly did not rail against either decision after it was made. In fact, I stated that Hobby Lobby was a dumb battle to pick given how cheap generic birth control is.

    please see the first amendment.

    No they are not irrelevant. they are highly needed in cases of just blatant disrespect not only for the constitution but for the law.
    I do support canadites that are trying to repeal it.

    come 2016 I plan on voting for more people that plan to repeal it.

    no because this country has had it with liberal failure since Obama took office. he will not suffer another democrat to lead this country into
    another 8 years of stagnation and failure. if they do then they deserve all of it.

    PS they SCOTUS is wrong. they got it wrong and they know they got it wrong. Roberts is a hack of a justice and should be disbarred and removed from the bench
    along with all the other traitors on that bench.
    So they are traitors because a majority wrote a ruling you, a laymen (most likely with a legal education consisting of partisan blogs and AM talk radio), disagrees with. Seems a bit histrionic to me.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    I wouldn't be too proud of the fact that Republicans were happy to let people die for lack of health care. It's a sick chapter in American political life, and one Republicans should let fade away as quickly as possible.
    Its a lie, shameful political rhetoric you have allowed yourself to fall for. Congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    It's not even close to being Constitutional, lol...

    No rational, informed, honest person would conclude that it is Constitutional. Only corrupt, dishonest, activist jurists would approve it. Exhibit A: The SCOTUS. All 9 need to be impeached.
    Are you saying the conservative SCOTUS is legislating from the bench?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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