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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Those are nice stories, but there was a lot more to both of those (not sure which nation eased into war with Germany - which one?) than mere rhetoric and powers of persuasion. The fall of the Berlin Wall was the culmination of many years of efforts and of many events totally outside Reagan's control. 20 or 10 or even 5 years earlier Reagan could have given that speech 100 times and not a thing happens. Surely you know this.



    I've read just the cliff notes version of the 'swaying' and it took decades and started with a single, relatively small province. You're talking about a complete overhaul of a healthcare system of a vast, diverse country with 10 times the population, overnight.



    He's inept because he tried and got something done after decades of inaction.... got it. If only he'd have used his Green Lantern Super Powers he could have changed the world!!
    Absolutely stunning at how indoctrinated so many people are in this country today, people who believe it is the Federal Governments responsibility to take over personal responsibility issues of individual Americans. Incredible how poorly informed people are in that most do not seem to understand where the money comes from to fund these programs nor do they seem to care if someone else pays for their personal responsibility issues. This country has far too many people that have been Gruberized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since the GOP House refuses to REPLACE what they are trying to REPEAL, while just going to court, the third wing of the USSC has acted for them, as they chose them to do .
    Why do you think it is the Federal Government's responsibility to take money from those who earned it so that you can have your healthcare paid for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Conservatives didn't draft a piss poor bill, so poorly written that it needs to go to SCOTUS to be interpreted.
    The plan now known as Obamacare, was founded in a conservative think tank, first proposed and articulated for law as the conservative alternative to "hillarycare" and finally implemented and field tested under the direction of a Republican governor. This was a frivolous lawsuit that was solely based on trying to take a few words out of context. While I agree that such a section was sloppy, we are blessed, in this case, that we have a SOCTUS that weighed substance over form.

    Its time to move on, Cons. This continued wallowing in the best is rather unbecoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you think it is the Federal Government's responsibility to take money from those who earned it so that you can have your healthcare paid for?
    Because that's what we citizens decided was best for the nation, via our elected officials. It's the law. Confirmed by the Supreme Court. Several times.

    Deal with it.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The plan now known as Obamacare, was founded in a conservative think tank, first proposed and articulated for law as the conservative alternative to "hillarycare" and finally implemented and field tested under the direction of a Republican governor. This was a frivolous lawsuit that was solely based on trying to take a few words out of context. While I agree that such a section was sloppy, we are blessed, in this case, that we have a SOCTUS that weighed substance over form.

    Its time to move on, Cons. This continued wallowing in the best is rather unbecoming.
    Thats nice, kindly show one republican who voted for it. Just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    The article states that "71 percent of the combined increase in health insurance coverage during the first half of 2014 was attributable to 25 states and the District of Columbia adopting the Obamacare Medicaid expansion."

    So not "through 2014." "During the first half of 2014."



    Another of this creep's lies that I have refuted over and over.

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    Spiked very briefly last fall for some reason, now back down to a historically low level of around seven million. Over the past five years, private-sector employment has increased by 12.6 million to 122 million, while public-sector jobs have decreased by about two million.



    What perspective is that?



    This putz loves referring to me as "mimi." What a clown.

    >>I don't see Obama creating 12 million jobs because he inherited 142 million that is 148 million today at a cost of 7.6 trillion dollars added to the debt.

    Employment fell to 138 million by the end of 2009, while the effects of the Great Recession, which resulted from tax cuts for the wealthy and an irresponsible deregulation of the financial sector, played through the labor market. This idiot pretends he can analyze the US economy, but he is completely ignorant of how it operates.



    My God, I quoted the articles. How could "the articles say different than [my] post"? Good luck with that.
    You have no clue as to what you are posting or how to read the articles you claim support your point of view. Fact or opinion, there were 142 million working Americans when Obama took office and there are 148 million now? Fact or opinion there are 6.5 million part time employees now included in the employment number? Stop making Gruber look brilliant

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    Because that's what we citizens decided was best for the nation, via our elected officials. It's the law. Confirmed by the Supreme Court. Several times.

    Deal with it.
    Really? so is that why the Democrats kept the Congress in 2014? Oh, wait, they didn't. How many Republicans voted for Obamacare? You don't seem to have a problem with someone else paying for your personal responsibility issues. Is that they way you were raised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Kind of like the trade pact the GOPs just voted for--think they read it?



    Are there any GOP ideas in ACA?
    And why hasn't the GOP "REPLACE" hit the House floor ?
    ...at this point, the GOP can not ever repeal this without a well articulated REPLACE. Since they will be unable to ever agree upon and articulate one, the PPACA is here to stay.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why do you think it is the Federal Government's responsibility to take money from those who earned it so that you can have your healthcare paid for?
    1. Congress created the law.
    2. The President signed the law.
    3. SCOTUS found the law Constitutiional TWICE


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    Perhaps if the leeches don't go gaga over Hillary, the pubs retake the WH assuming they don't put up a RINO like the last two elections. If they also hold onto the house and senate, what do you think the chances are that this "decided law" stays that way?

    It's a sad day when one's hopes hinge on republicans being both smart and principled, but such is the state of the USFG.

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