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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Compared to America you're second rate. America says jump, Canada asks how high.

    If the American people don't want Obamacare, and we don't, then it won't outlast Obama. Your defeatism might be true if we were talking about Canadians, but we're talking about Americans here. We're doers.
    I said this earlier: Americans don't want Obamacare. They just want what's in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Maybe the Cons will finally stop trying to rely on legislation from the bench. Perhaps they will get smart and actually work WITH the PPACA (fix the legislation, where appropriate and expand state exchanges), because they are out of options in working against it.
    It is the left that is working to salvage unpopular and unconstitutional legislation through activist justices on the US Supreme Court. Justice Roberts went through mental gymanastics in an attempt to justify both of his decisions in both lawsuits in regards to Obamacare. And the only way to fix PPACA (so called) is to repeal it and replace it with something that is constitutional and works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They had time to support BHO on free trade when his own party did not. As for Obamacare, if the Repubs take the White House in 2016 its days will be numbered.
    And you give us yet another reason not to give a Bush a 4th term. Like we needed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrT View Post
    This is really good stuff. Glad that we don't have to re-legislate the entire healthcare law and now we can focus on using the tools it provides to supply better healthcare for cheaper.
    It is accomplishing neither. It certainly is not improving healthcare and it is certainly not cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. Yer right that electoral politics is the solution, but public opinion plays a role in that. And debate can foster understanding and consensus.
    Sure and we have been debating the ACA for years now. The vast, vast majority of federal courts have ruled in favor it when it came before them, and with millions getting coverage through the exchanges now, people might as well get used to it and focus on reforming it where necessary rather than this pipe dream of repeal.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I did not make the original comment bringing that up, read the history again or admit you should not have jumped in.



    Minor, LOL. This is what happens when Congress passes such a huge law there ends up a problem it expects the Supreme Court to edit for them.



    Again, not minor. A real change on what is a State and why it now means much more.



    Yes it is, and for the reasons mentioned. Now the term "State" has an expanded definition. Interpret does not mean edit the meaning of words to make the government happy.
    So when you guys say you don't like the "nanny State" you don't mean the Federal Govt.? Which State do you mean then? There are 50 of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And you give us yet another reason not to give a Bush a 4th term. Like we needed it.
    There are millions on the exchanges now. By 2017, there will be millions more. The notion that any president, Democrat or Republican, will sign a repeal of the ACA and thus instantly take health coverage away from millions of people is absurd. Its not going to happen. If they had any sense they would focus on reform rather than repeal because that law is part of the country just like Medicare is.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So when you guys say you are against a "nanny State" you don't mean the Federal Govt.? Which State do you mean then? There are 50 of them.
    Your question has zero relevance to the conversation you jumped into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    generally, people who stay poor do so largely because of decisions that they make, such as quitting school, having children out of wedlock, etc.
    How is it you came by this knowledge? A careful and thorough sociological analysis? A little birdie told you?

    There's no doubt that dropping out of school is a big problem getting ahead. But if you have a high school diploma and got married before you had kids, yer saying you have a better than even chance to move out of poverty? What are the other "decisions" you should get right?

    And I don't see how getting married would make such a difference. Yer analysis doesn't strike me as having a lot of validity.
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