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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JT. Didn't take long.



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    Yes! SCOTUS affirms what we know is true in our hearts & under the law: Health insurance should be affordable & available to all. -H
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    The Supreme Court recognized the common-sense reading of the ACA. Access to affordable health care shouldn't depend on where you live. 10:22 AM - 25 Jun 2015



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    I remain committed to repealing this bad law and replacing it...9:32 AM - 25 Jun 2015

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    I am disappointed in the Burwell decision, but this is not the end of the fight against ObamaCare. http://jeb.cm/1GtskNQ 10:26 AM - 25 Jun 2015 .....snip~


    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/scotu...431771361.html
    "Health insurance should be affordable & available to all."
    Harruummphh! I don't see ObamaCare doing either. What I do see it doing is increasing the costs to the middle class, shrinking that very middle class they claim to be so worried about.

    Next it'll end up being 'I don't dare go to the doctor even if I am sick, because I can't afford the deductibles and copays. Needed surgeries? Out of the question'.

    The death of the middle class, quite literally.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Kasich, Snyder, Sandoval, Martinez to name a few who took ME are no doubt relieved and happy.

    I see Scalia is now calling it SCOTUScare .


    Heya Nimby. What do you mean questioning, he dissented. Plus told it.....how it is.



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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Moving the goalpost on dishonesty.....doesn't help your point of view.
    I realize you placed the dishonesty goalposts to a position where you can easily hit them....but my point stands.

    You are complaining the states can't do things as well as the Feds, but you can't admit that, so you jibber and jabber.
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I realize you placed the dishonesty goalposts to a position where you can easily hit them....but my point stands.

    You are complaining the states can't do things as well as the Feds, but you can't admit that, so you jibber and jabber.
    On July 1, 2012, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) appeared on "Meet the Press," where she promised that "everybody will have lower rates, better quality care and better access" as a result of the Affordable Care Act (a.k.a. Obamacare).


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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    No evidence offered to back that up.
    Private Insurance market gains: 2.4 million

    Medicaid Insurance gains: 6.0 million

    71% of all newly insured through 2014 were from Medicaid Expansion. (source)
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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I realize you placed the dishonesty goalposts to a position where you can easily hit them....but my point stands.

    You are complaining the states can't do things as well as the Feds, but you can't admit that, so you jibber and jabber.


    Yeah I did.....Right where you were standing with the leftist brethren. Plus I keep it there. Where it belongs with its Rightful owners. So no need to even try and flinch. I don't miss.

    Yet then I did put up Scalia dissent which pointed out two aspects that were factual. Then of course there was the point of the Forbes article. But it is alright for you to deflect why you are slow on picking up on what I believe.

    Which then I put up Vermont as an example of a State that did exceptionally well. Yet even seeing it with your own very eyes. You still couldn't figure it out.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Yea, well I worked my 40 years so you're welcome.
    Then you don't need Obamacare but if you really want me to take care of you send me your SS number so I can deduct you as an exemption?

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You made a specific claim: "Being insured and being able to afford treatment are two separate things. That is why disapproval remains high."

    You showed me a poll about disapproval, but nothing to shed light on why. That's why I asked for the internals, that would go deeper than the top line number.

    Ah, the old "Find something better or shut up!" Argument. The health care industry of 2008 was better than today. Today some more people have insurance but that doesn't mean that they can afford to go to the doctor. The PPACA solution to health care is like trying to solve world hunger by handing out dinner plates.
    If it was better then, the the GOP plan should be "Repeal." Period. Not even the GOPers think that works with the public, which is why they added the "replace" to their slogan, with a plan that is continually 'to be named later' but.... I'll turn it over to FDR:

    Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things; but we do not like the way the present Administration is doing them. Just turn them over to us. We will do all of them- we will do more of them we will do them better; and, most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything."
    As to the 'have insurance but can't afford treatment' claim - what is your evidence? The ACA caps total out of pocket, including premiums. So I'm not really sure why someone insured (who wasn't before) is less able to afford insurance than they were when uninsured. Is the percentage of income cap too high? And if the cost to insureds is lowered, how is that paid for, by taxpayers though higher healthcare related taxes or by less covered care? One of the two...

    I've helped several previously uninsured through the ACA process. A typical one is a lady who works for us occasionally. She's reasonably healthy, makes about $15,000, and her total premiums plus out of pocket was capped at about $60 per month for a silver plan. It's not great insurance, it's the cheapest silver plan, but she is FAR better off, and she'd tell you that. I'm sure others are worse off, but that's going to be true of any change to the system.

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you are more than welcome to leave it

    somalia would seem to be a place where you would have no such 'problems'
    If you really want me to take care of you send me your SS number so I can claim you as an exemption. I quite frankly have no problem with personal responsibility but apparently you do. Think you will get the same opportunities in Somalia as you have here and a liberal machine to provide you with all you want?

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    re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

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    Colorado (higher taxes): "The Connect for Health Colorado board of directors voted unanimously Thursday to raise the fees it charges on health insurance policies to bolster its finances as federal grants run out later this year. The state health insurance exchange raised the fee on 2016 plans purchased through its marketplace from the current 1.4 percent of premiums to 3.5 percent, the same rate charged on the federal exchange...Although insurance carriers pay the fees to the exchange, they acknowledge fees are passed on to consumers in one form or another...The fee increases are projected to help bring revenues to about $40 million in fiscal year 2015-16. It would cover operational expenses, but not capital costs, such as improving the computer system…"....snip~

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