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    Colorado (higher taxes): "The Connect for Health Colorado board of directors voted unanimously Thursday to raise the fees it charges on health insurance policies to bolster its finances as federal grants run out later this year. The state health insurance exchange raised the fee on 2016 plans purchased through its marketplace from the current 1.4 percent of premiums to 3.5 percent, the same rate charged on the federal exchange...Although insurance carriers pay the fees to the exchange, they acknowledge fees are passed on to consumers in one form or another...The fee increases are projected to help bring revenues to about $40 million in fiscal year 2015-16. It would cover operational expenses, but not capital costs, such as improving the computer system…"....snip~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    After only 18 months? Haha dream on buddy, dream on.

    A republican in the White House is the death knell for obamacare...18 months to go!
    Well I guess if you're gonna dream... Dream big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Show us then.

    And please don't use things like lowering premiums for specific groups, or subsidizing premiums. Show us where people said that premiums (not growth) would be lower overall with the ACA.

    I think we will see you are wrong.
    Your lack of comprehension is not a failure of the program.
    Remarks of Senator Barack Obama: Health Care Town Hall - Public Statements - The Voter's Self Defense System - Vote Smart

    In an Obama administration, we'll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year. And we'll do it by investing in disease prevention, not just disease management; by investing in a paperless health care system to reduce administrative costs; and by covering every single American and making sure that they can take their health care with them if they lose their job. We'll also reduce costs for business and their workers by picking up the tab for some of the most expensive illnesses. And we won't do all this twenty years from now, or ten years from now. We'll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States.

    Remarks of Senator Barack Obama: Health Care - Public Statements - The Voter's Self Defense System - Vote Smart

    We'll start by reducing premiums by as much as $2,500 per family - and we'll do it by taking the following five steps to lower costs throughout our health care system.


    No wait, that's right, that number has never been offered, because it didn't count.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    That was Obamas campaign plan....not the ACA.

    Try to keep up.
    A "campaign plan" he and his supporters held to during and after the election. Nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    After only 18 months? Haha dream on buddy, dream on.

    A republican in the White House is the death knell for obamacare...18 months to go!
    I'd indicate to you that in my view, looking at this realistically, the next major move to alter or replace the ACA will be a single payer system similar to those in every other G20 nation. Reform will not go backwards. The insurance companies won't stand for it and there will never, in the highly divided US political system,be sufficient votes to simply rescind it.

    Your only chance was to have an honest Chief Justice with the integrity to do his job as he swore under oath - you lost that chance when he wavered and caved to vanity and ego, not wanting to go down in history as the Chief Justice who, rightly, overturned the unconstitutional ACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Is there any wonder why the majority of these "fact check" operations are arms of the liberal/progressive machine?
    No need to wonder. Reactionaries don't rely on facts. The liberal/progressive machine exposes their lies.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    the claim that removal of the federal subsidies would kill many many people is just utter nonsense.
    The claim is that millions would lose health insurance if the ACA subsidies were eliminated. I'm not much interested in counting corpses. And I see you've now changed to "many many." Should I assume you'd be content with just "many"?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    the links and discussion that premium rates were rising AS QUICKLY were based upon a link comparing them to the rises in one quarter of President Bush's term. The discussion was before and after Obamacare.
    I don't know what yer talking about. I'm sure you don't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well I guess if you're gonna dream... Dream big.
    Yep, you better pray for Hilary. Except liberals aren't Christian, so do whatever you do in place of prayer....wish upon a star maybe.

    Hillary is the only chance obamacare has.

    And you and o both know this is never happening, it'll be Marco Rubip or 8 more years of Bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'd indicate to you that in my view, looking at this realistically, the next major move to alter or replace the ACA will be a single payer system similar to those in every other G20 nation. Reform will not go backwards. The insurance companies won't stand for it and there will never, in the highly divided US political system,be sufficient votes to simply rescind it.

    Your only chance was to have an honest Chief Justice with the integrity to do his job as he swore under oath - you lost that chance when he wavered and caved to vanity and ego, not wanting to go down in history as the Chief Justice who, rightly, overturned the unconstitutional ACA.
    That's why Canada is a second rate country and America is a superpower. Watch how we do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    The claim is that millions would lose health insurance if the ACA subsidies were eliminated. I'm not much interested in counting corpses. And I see you've now changed to "many many." Should I assume you'd be content with just "many"?
    You stuck your nose into a conversation I was having with Pete, who claimed that many many people would die if the subsidies were removed and that's why the Supreme Court upheld it. I called that claim nonsense. I haven't changed any argument. Perhaps you'd like to comprehend what you're talking about or mind your own business. I proved your point wrong and now you whine about it.
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