Unfortunately what you are doing is taking CBO estimates as gospel ignoring the accuracy of the CBO and the reality that their assumptions are made based upon information given them by Congress. Until there are real actual savings all you do is give us opinions of someone else. There isn't any Federally created Social program that cost what it was supposed to cost and do what it was supposed to do.Originally Posted by Threegoofs
Care to back up this rhetoric with actual sources and facts that aren't from fox news, or a libertarian think tank?
No one needs a war more than a Politician who is low in the Polls.
I gave you the quote from the Medicare Center on healthcare costs per capita but it is you and supporters of ACA who claim that the cost curve has been bent downward. It does seem that you have the same disease as most Clinton supporters who claim he had a surplus as those were PROJECTIONS not reality just like the CBO Projections NOW!! CBO is not projecting lower healthcare costs due to assumptions they are receiving. If the assumptions are wrong what do you think that does to the projections?
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statisti...ads/tables.pdfThe per capita cost of health care expenditures in 2012 was $8,915, according to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. It was $8,170 in 2009, $8,411 in 2010 and $8,658 in 2011. In other words, it’s rising year after year.
Last edited by Conservative; 07-09-15 at 01:23 PM.
yes, yes, it is. What is the rate at which is i rising from 2001 to 2009? How does that compare to 20010 to 2014?
No one needs a war more than a Politician who is low in the Polls.
So anything that increases in cost but at a slower rate is good in the liberal world? How does that eliminate the deficit ultimately reducing the debt and how do you know the CBO PROJECTIONS are going to be accurate?
Why do you buy what the Federal Govt. and CBO tell you when their history is so bad and they have already generated an 18.2 trillion dollar debt? What is going to happen when the newly high risk individuals now covered under ACA hit the market with their higher costs healthcare treatments? Do you realize that an increase in Medicaid Patients does not lower healthcare costs but rather shifts some of those costs to the state?
Please stop buying what the liberal elite tell you but rather research what they tell you and verify the rhetoric with actual results.
I showed you the skyrocketing costs of healthcare from 1980 ( just over $1,000 per person ) to
2005 ( over $7,500 per person ) . The U.S. spent $8,402 per person on health care in 2010.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7:1 KJV
Yes, and 8900 in 2012. Again why do you believe insuring more people many of whom are high risk and formerly uninsured are going to lower healthcare costs and can you name for me Just one Federal Social program that ever cost what it was projected to cost and actually do something other than create dependence?
Do you realize that CBO only gives PREDICTIONS based upon the assumptions they are given? If the assumptions are wrong what does that do to the predictions?
I think you really should show that your projections are accurate , if you are making claims. But no, that is for other people.
No one needs a war more than a Politician who is low in the Polls.
I point to actual results NOT predictions. CBO has PROJECTED that ACA will cost less but ACA hasn't been fully implemented so there are no official results yet. You do realize that much of ACA was front loaded with tax increases which obviously will lower projected costs but the reality is there haven't been significant reductions because the program is still relatively new. You want badly to believe what you are told but history presents a different picture and is reality.
If the assumptions are wrong it would be because lawmakers repeal some of the revenue neutral funding.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7:1 KJV
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