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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    19.33 is "well over 19" but 12.97 is "12 plus"

    intellectual dishonesty at its finest, folks.
    Oh, good Lord, the high was 19.7 and even if it was 19.3 that is higher than 13 isn't it? Such passion for liberalism and Obama ignoring his incompetence.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, good Lord, the high was 19.7 and even if it was 19.3 that is higher than 13 isn't it? Such passion for liberalism and Obama ignoring his incompetence.
    nope

    Incompetence ? I'm pretty sure at least Obama can read a simple table on Wiki and not butcher it.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    nope

    Incompetence ? I'm pretty sure at least Obama can read a simple table on Wiki and not butcher it.
    I think liberals like you will never get it or understand leadership or the lack of it. What you don't seem to understand is that the misery index under Carter went close to 22 percent in mid 1980 and it was that economy that Reagan inherited and it was Reagan leadership that had the greatest drop in that misery index. It was the misery index that most people felt during both recessions making the 81-82 worse but shorter because of leadership which is why Reagan won 49 states in 1984

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    nope

    Incompetence ? I'm pretty sure at least Obama can read a simple table on Wiki and not butcher it.
    Maybe Obama can read a chart but sure knows nothing about leading us to change the chart. Obama is incompetent and you don't seem to grasp that reality.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I think liberals like you will never get it or understand leadership or the lack of it. What you don't seem to understand is that the misery index under Carter went close to 22 percent in mid 1980 and it was that economy that Reagan inherited and it was Reagan leadership that had the greatest drop in that misery index. It was the misery index that most people felt during both recessions making the 81-82 worse but shorter because of leadership which is why Reagan won 49 states in 1984

    What you don't seem to understand is that -- at no point in the last 2 pages of our "debate"--- did you show one ounce of intellectual honesty, refutation of my point, or coherent and germane discussion.
    Do you even realize that in the above quote- where you try to demonize carter, you say "almost 22" (rounding up of 21.98), yet the whole thread you've been underselling this metric for Obama (12.97 gets rounded down, you never call it "almost 13").

    LMAO

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    What you don't seem to understand is that -- at no point in the last 2 pages of our "debate"--- did you show one ounce of intellectual honesty, refutation of my point, or coherent and germane discussion.
    Do you even realize that in the above quote- where you try to demonize carter, you say "almost 22" (rounding up of 21.98), yet the whole thread you've been underselling this metric for Obama (12.97 gets rounded down, you never call it "almost 13").

    LMAO
    that is your opinion based upon looking through a biased, partisan prism. Nice diversion though, where it is 19+ vs. 13- which one is worse?

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    that is your opinion based upon looking through a biased, partisan prism. Nice diversion though, where it is 19+ vs. 13- which one is worse?
    It's not my opinion, they are your words.

    Own them, and your intellectual dishonesty.
    Quit moving the goalposts.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    It's not my opinion, they are your words.

    Own them, and your intellectual dishonesty.
    Quit moving the goalposts.
    So it is dishonest to make a mistake and admit it? Liberals certainly have a different standard than most people. The issue is which recession was worse and you base your on the lack of leadership and poor economic policies vs. mine which is based upon good leadership and good economic policies that generated actual positive results. Reagan took a misery index that was 21+ in Mid 1980, 19.3 when he took office down to 9.7 whereas Obama took the misery index from 7.8 to 7.6. now spin that one.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So it is dishonest to make a mistake and admit it? Liberals certainly have a different standard than most people. The issue is which recession was worse and you base your on the lack of leadership and poor economic policies vs. mine which is based upon good leadership and good economic policies that generated actual positive results. Reagan took a misery index that was 21+ in Mid 1980, 19.3 when he took office down to 9.7 whereas Obama took the misery index from 7.8 to 7.6. now spin that one.

    So the misery index is lower under Obama than Reagan.

    Nice argument AGAINST conservatism. WE NEED MORE OBAMAS AND LESS REAGAN MISERY!

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So it is dishonest to make a mistake and admit it? Liberals certainly have a different standard than most people. The issue is which recession was worse and you base your on the lack of leadership and poor economic policies vs. mine which is based upon good leadership and good economic policies that generated actual positive results. Reagan took a misery index that was 21+ in Mid 1980, 19.3 when he took office down to 9.7 whereas Obama took the misery index from 7.8 to 7.6. now spin that one.
    The current misery index is actually 5.2% (5.4% unemployment and a -0.2% inflation rate). Misery Index
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