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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You have no clue whatsoever about performance. The so-called outcome based pay does not account for the bad health habits or gene pool of the patients.
    Well, sparky, it's become quite obvious to which one of us has no clue.

    Quality based performance measures are just that, they improve quality of care. And they are starting to work quite well, from what I've been seeing.
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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You are kidding, right? You think computerized and online records would not have happened without Obamacare? That was beginning long before the moron in the oval office even dreamed of running for president.
    Actually, the move to EMR was initiated by the stimulus bill in 2009.

    And yeah, if that didn't jump start the system, it might not have happened for a long, long time.

    So remember to say 'Thanks, Obama' for that too. It's going to improve medical care considerably.
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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, the point remains projections are just that and to base those projections on a year is nothing but foolish and inaccurate. Any idea how accurate the CBO is on their projections?
    The projections are what are "promised" in advance. No kidding they turned out to be inaccurate--the ACA has been coming in well below what was promised. That's my point.

    Like I said, you have your answer. Which program's costs have ever come in below what was promised? The ACA!

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Facts are such difficult things for some to accept....
    The question is why was any money taken from Medicare for ACA?? Do you understand what funds Medicare? Any problem with your taxdollars that were to fund YOUR Medicare being taken to fund a program that is not part of Medicare??

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The question is why was any money taken from Medicare for ACA?? Do you understand what funds Medicare? Any problem with your taxdollars that were to fund YOUR Medicare being taken to fund a program that is not part of Medicare??
    No money was taken from Medicare to fund the ACA. What is mixing you up is that the ACA saves Medicare money- it slows the rate of increase of the cost of healthcare and subsidies offset some of the need for Medicare. Some Republican politicians tries to spin that as if the ACA cut the budget for Medicare for a while, but it wasn't true. Stranger still, Republicans suddenly arguing that cutting Medicare is a bad thing is totally ridiculous. They've spent decades trying to cut Medicare lol.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The question is why was any money taken from Medicare for ACA?? Do you understand what funds Medicare? Any problem with your taxdollars that were to fund YOUR Medicare being taken to fund a program that is not part of Medicare??
    I have to admit I love this line of attack. Keep your government hands off my Medicare!! No stealing from socialized medicine to fund socialized medicine!

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The question is why was any money taken from Medicare for ACA?? Do you understand what funds Medicare? Any problem with your taxdollars that were to fund YOUR Medicare being taken to fund a program that is not part of Medicare??
    Wait....you really need to go back to the stuff you got excoriated on first....the quality issue. Because you should address the fact you are totally clueless about the ACA head on.

    I think we both know you won't. Which is why they created the 'ignore' function.
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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Thank you for acknowledging that the PPACA needs fixing. Poorly conceived, poorly written, poorly implemented. US remains the only developed country without universal health care and 35 million or so uninsured. The PPACA did not lower costs, result in a lower deficit, or any of the things proponents stated 5 years ago. The people opposing have been proven right on much of their objections.
    ...actually, the PPACA is delivering results in many of the areas promised. Of course the PPACA needs tweaking. All major legislation does. My point, however, was to state its time for the Republicans to realize its here to stay and work to fix what they don't like, as the idea of it ever being repealed is fantasy.

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by tuhaybey View Post
    No money was taken from Medicare to fund the ACA. What is mixing you up is that the ACA saves Medicare money- it slows the rate of increase of the cost of healthcare and subsidies offset some of the need for Medicare. Some Republican politicians tries to spin that as if the ACA cut the budget for Medicare for a while, but it wasn't true. Stranger still, Republicans suddenly arguing that cutting Medicare is a bad thing is totally ridiculous. They've spent decades trying to cut Medicare lol.
    So prove that money hasn't been taken from Medicare? You people are absolutely amazing, supporting this Administration and liberalism in general. Are you on the left payroll? What do you get out of this passion you have for massive expansion and another entitlement program that will always cost more than intended?

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    Re: Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies[W:700]

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Wait....you really need to go back to the stuff you got excoriated on first....the quality issue. Because you should address the fact you are totally clueless about the ACA head on.

    I think we both know you won't. Which is why they created the 'ignore' function.
    Please explain why such passion for another entitlement program since there hasn't been an entitlement program that ever cost what it was intended to cost. To base your claims on CBO Estimates shows just how you have been indoctrinated and buy the lies. Why? Are you on the govt. payroll?

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