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Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol

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Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol - NBC News

Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley ordered the Confederate flags on the state Capitol grounds in Montgomery to be taken down Wednesday morning, NBC News has learned.

Bentley's decision comes amid a growing backlash against the rebel banner, which critics say symbolizes a legacy of racism. The Confederate flag has been in the spotlight since the deadly shooting one week ago of nine parishioners at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina, by a white gunman.

the wave of flag removal is moving down the coast.... where will it end?

:shock:
 
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Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol - NBC News



the wave of flag removal is moving down the coast.... where will it end?

:shock:





More than likely here for this market. Flag Makers will quit making the Confederate Flag.


Major U.S. flag makers to stop making Confederate flags.....


Prominent U.S. flag makers said on Tuesday they will stop manufacturing and selling Confederate battle flags after last week's attack on worshippers at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

On Tuesday, online auction site eBay Inc said it would ban Confederate flags and related items containing the flag's image from its website......snip~

Major U.S. flag makers to stop making Confederate flags
 
About time, we need to move away from this nonsense and leave these flags in the history books where they belong.
 
Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley Orders Confederate Flag Taken Down From Capitol - NBC News



the wave of flag removal is moving down the coast.... where will it end?

:shock:
It will probably end with all the flags removed from government display.

Though I've read commentary that South Carolina has written their legislation (when moving their flag from the capital to the War Memorial) so rigorously, that it will be difficult to remove it w/o a near unanimous legislative majority.
 
It will probably end with all the flags removed from government display.

Though I've read commentary that South Carolina has written their legislation (when moving their flag from the capital to the War Memorial) so rigorously, that it will be difficult to remove it w/o a near unanimous legislative majority.



Mornin Chomsky. :2wave: It has moved beyond that. Amazon, Google, Wal-Mart.....also Alabama has ordered them down from other Memorials. What a distraction huh? Yesterday.....Chicago had 18 shootings. A few of them were race related between some Hispanics and some Blacks. Some might say it was over turf. Even though those boundaries never seem to change despite the decade passing.




Elsewhere around the nation, leaders were already demoting the historic but divisive symbol. By the order of Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley on Wednesday, four Confederate banners were being taken down from a large monument to secessionist soldiers outside that state's capitol.

Politicians around the nation then joined calls for removing historic but divisive Civil War-era symbols from places of honor, from state flags to license plates to statues and place names. Many said change is imperative after the white man accused of shooting of nine black churchgoers posed with the flag.

Even the Citadel, South Carolina influential military college, whose cadets fired the first shots of the Civil War, voted in favor of moving its Confederate Naval Jack flag from its prominent place inside its main chapel to a more "appropriate" campus location. Businesses also moved quickly: Wal-Mart, e-Bay, Amazon, Target and Sears were among those removing Confederate merchandise from stores and online sites, and at least three major flag makers said they will no longer manufacture the Confederate flag.....snip~

As SC honors church victims, Alabama lowers its flags
 
Once the Stars and Bars are all down racism will be officially over, right?

I'm hearing from a few Native Americans that the Stars and Stripes is no less offensive to them. It never occurred to me before, but they have a good point if they decide to make it public.
 
More than likely here for this market. Flag Makers will quit making the Confederate Flag.


Major U.S. flag makers to stop making Confederate flags.....

Prominent U.S. flag makers said on Tuesday they will stop manufacturing and selling Confederate battle flags after last week's attack on worshippers at a black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

On Tuesday, online auction site eBay Inc said it would ban Confederate flags and related items containing the flag's image from its website......snip~

Major U.S. flag makers to stop making Confederate flags

I seriously doubt all flag makers will stop producing the Confederate Flag. Some may make the decision to stop producing them just as some retailers have made the decision to no longer sell them, but the truth is the Confederate Flag is a commodity item based on nostalgia. As such, I'm sure a market will continue to exist for the Confederate Flag as long as there are people who are:

- proud of their southern heritage

- have ancestors who were part of the Civil War and fought on the side of the Confederacy

- state Confederate Memorial sites

- are rebels at heart (from teenagers to KKK members)

As long as someone fits within those market dynamics flag makers will continue to process orders for the Confederate Flag. In any case, if consumers can't find a U.S. flag maker/retailer who provides it they'll certainly find a flag makers overseas who will produce them "made to order". I'm sure even the flag maker here where I live will eventually come around and change his mind because the market will dictate it.
 
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utterly stupid. this is PC run amoke. the shooting had nothing to do with the confederate flag.
people are knee jerk reaction.

Designed by William Porcher Miles, the chairman of the Flag and Seal committee, a now-popular variant of the Confederate flag was rejected as the national flag in 1861. It was instead adopted as a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.[30] Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags.

people blaming a flag is logical idiocy
 
Once the Stars and Bars are all down racism will be officially over, right?

The flag in question is not the stars and bars. the stars and bars was the first flag of the confederate state. this is a completely different flag and was only used by Genera Lee

I'm hearing from a few Native Americans that the Stars and Stripes is no less offensive to them. It never occurred to me before, but they have a good point if they decide to make it public.

welcome to the united states of the offended.
 
Once the Stars and Bars are all down racism will be officially over, right?

Don't be ridiculous!

I'm hearing from a few Native Americans that the Stars and Stripes is no less offensive to them. It never occurred to me before, but they have a good point if they decide to make it public.

(Deep breath 'cause this may be a little difficult for some people to swallow...) The difference here is Native Americans as a whole opted to live "separate" from most Americans. As such, they're welcome to wave their tribal banners as high as they want while residing on the Reservation, but once they choose to leave the tribe (kinda to young Amish children who choose to separate from their Amish communities when they enter adulthood), they're free to stand firm under Old Glory as they please.
 
The flag in question is not the stars and bars. the stars and bars was the first flag of the confederate state. this is a completely different flag and was only used by Genera Lee



welcome to the united states of the offended.

Right. Battle Flag.
 
utterly stupid. this is PC run amoke. the shooting had nothing to do with the confederate flag.
people are knee jerk reaction.

Designed by William Porcher Miles, the chairman of the Flag and Seal committee, a now-popular variant of the Confederate flag was rejected as the national flag in 1861. It was instead adopted as a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.[30] Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags.

people blaming a flag is logical idiocy

People aren't blaming the Confederate Flag for the shooting. They ARE, however, placing the flag in its proper context in as far as how it was (and has been) used as a symbol of racial hatred. As such, and in particular since it IS a flag that has no relevant official representation for any state within the Union but acts only as a item of personal passion or sentimental remembrance of those who died during the Civil War (on the side of the Confederacy), the flag really should be placed in a museum rather than flown on state grounds anywhere in this country with the exception of Civil War Memorials and/or grave sites.
 
utterly stupid. this is PC run amoke. the shooting had nothing to do with the confederate flag.
people are knee jerk reaction.

Designed by William Porcher Miles, the chairman of the Flag and Seal committee, a now-popular variant of the Confederate flag was rejected as the national flag in 1861. It was instead adopted as a battle flag by the Army of Northern Virginia under General Lee.[30] Despite never having historically represented the CSA as a country nor officially recognized as one of the national flags.

people blaming a flag is logical idiocy

No one is blaming the flag. We are correctly blaming the violent and racist culture of the people who wave that flag. We reject the awful ideas they stand for, and we reject the symbol that they use to represent those ideas.
 
Don't be ridiculous!

(Deep breath 'cause this may be a little difficult for some people to swallow...) The difference here is Native Americans as a whole opted to live "separate" from most Americans. As such, they're welcome to wave their tribal banners as high as they want while residing on the Reservation, but once they choose to leave the tribe (kinda to young Amish children who choose to separate from their Amish communities when they enter adulthood), they're free to stand firm under Old Glory as they please.

How did that work, "opted to live separate"? Who gave them the choice?

All that deep breathing seems to have caused you to miss the point. Some native Americans apparently feel that the US Flag is a flag of oppression.
 
Right. Battle Flag.

Oh, you mean the flag of a defeated treasonous army?

Pffffttt....

Who cares?

The winners make the rules.

Want a special flag just for you?

Don't lose next time.
 
About time, we need to move away from this nonsense and leave these flags in the history books where they belong.

Isn't fhe US flag a longer live symbol of White oppression than the Confederate? Maybe it's time to trash that one.

See where this could lead?
 
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Isn't fhe US flag a longer live symbol of White oppression than the Confederate? Maybe it's time to trash that one.

See where this could lead?

Is South Carolina a state in the Confederate States of America or the United States of America?
 
I seriously doubt all flag makers will stop producing the Confederate Flag. Some may make the decision to stop producing them just as some retailers have made the decision to no longer sell them, but the truth is the Confederate Flag is a commodity item based on nostalgia. As such, I'm sure a market will continue to exist for the Confederate Flag as long as there are people who are:

- proud of their southern heritage

- have ancestors who were part of the Civil War and fought on the side of the Confederacy

- state Confederate Memorial sites

- are rebels at heart (from teenagers to KKK members)

As long as someone fits within those market dynamics flag makers will continue to process orders for the Confederate Flag. In any case, if consumers can't find a U.S. flag maker/retailer who provides it they'll certainly find a flag makers overseas who will produce them "made to order". I'm sure even the flag maker here where I live will eventually come around and change his mind because the market will dictate it.



It is now more than 3.....oh, and I sure there will be some that will still sell The Symbol.

Like Cooter from the Dukes of Hazards, says his stores in two different states will still sell the Confederate Symbol and display them.
 
When the US was formed it was a slave country and many states fly the CF.

As usual, you didn't answer the question. Is South Carolina a state in the Confederate States of America or the United States of America?
 
As usual, you didn't answer the question. Is South Carolina a state in the Confederate States of America or the United States of America?
I posted a statement and you replied with a question that had nothing to do with it. A stupid one at that.
 
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